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Aya_4_life
#1 Posted : 5/6/2015 1:48:26 PM

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Hey, how long a half-life does ayahuasca have? Also whats the
best conditions to keep it in?
 

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#2 Posted : 5/6/2015 3:03:41 PM

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Well, evaporation of the solute would yield DMT and Harmala alkaloids which are rather stable when exposure to oxygen, light, and heat are avoided. I'm suggesting the evaporation to ensure that the brew does not ferment over time. I've never actually stored it however, so don't take my word entirely.

You could also potentially just freeze the brew in a vacuum sealed container and avoid a lot of hassle. I wouldn't say it would keep indefinitely but certainly quite some time.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/6/2015 5:45:01 PM

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I remember reading somewhere you can store up to a year in a fridge, not too sure how reliable that information was though lol
 
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#4 Posted : 5/7/2015 3:23:38 AM

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Freezing keeps it indefinitely.

When I would unfreeze it, it would last about 3 weeks in the fridge before it got moldy.

However, if I sealed the glass jar it was in in 2 ziploc bags, it wouldn't mold until after at least 5 weeks.
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#5 Posted : 5/7/2015 1:30:57 PM

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Molded aya does not ask to always scarefully dump it right away.
Remove visible mold, boil it again thoroughly (add water for this if needed).
Prevent mold by keeping air out of the container to start with, and keep store temps low.

Reading this:
Aya_4_life wrote:
Hey, how long a half-life does ayahuasca have? Also whats the
best conditions to keep it in?

In first I thought the question was not about storing/getting 50% dud, but about how long it takes for an aya experience to drop 50% intensity.
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If that was meant: it depends on too many factors to say anything about the development of a aya session, for example it can ramp up after a while when thinking intensity was settling out.
About keeping it "in" : is not the target, an experience is the goal, which strangely is not much in relation to keeping-in time.

 
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#6 Posted : 5/7/2015 4:23:25 PM

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The preparation for long time storage is reducing the brew until in has a consitency like honey. They store it for months in tropical climate that way. Also it is still liquid enough to "drink".
There is also the possiblity to reduce it to a resin, but that requires much more time in preparation.

Both forms should store for many years if keept in the freezer and quite a long time at room temperature too.
 
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#7 Posted : 5/7/2015 6:53:18 PM
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I can store my egg white cleansed Mimosa or Acacia teas in the fridge for at least 3 months. And i just encapsulate my Rue or Caapi extract.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/9/2015 2:43:31 AM

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Jees wrote:
Molded aya does not ask to always scarefully dump it right away.
Remove visible mold, boil it again thoroughly (add water for this if needed).
Prevent mold by keeping air out of the container to start with, and keep store temps low.

Reading this:
Aya_4_life wrote:
Hey, how long a half-life does ayahuasca have? Also whats the
best conditions to keep it in?

In first I thought the question was not about storing/getting 50% dud, but about how long it takes for an aya experience to drop 50% intensity.
Big grin
If that was meant: it depends on too many factors to say anything about the development of a aya session, for example it can ramp up after a while when thinking intensity was settling out.
About keeping it "in" : is not the target, an experience is the goal, which strangely is not much in relation to keeping-in time.





Molds can produce some pretty nasty mycotoxins that may/may not be destroyed by another boil.

The general rule I've heard from multiple reputable sources (many from this site) is its not wise to take that risk. I sure know I wouldn't.

As far as preservation, the freezer is best IMHO. Although a thick consistency syrup/honey solution does sound promising for Room temp storage.
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#9 Posted : 5/9/2015 11:13:22 AM

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Edited, see below.
 
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#10 Posted : 7/10/2015 10:53:35 AM

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The Day Tripper wrote:
Jees wrote:
Molded aya does not ask to always scarefully dump it right away.
Remove visible mold, boil it again thoroughly (add water for this if needed).

Molds can produce some pretty nasty mycotoxins that may/may not be destroyed by another boil....
Bump.

Seems true at normal water boiling point. It takes a pressure cooker to destroy possible bacterial induced toxins too at 116 deg C (240 deg F) , or higher.

117 Deg C (243 deg F), being the minimum we want, is achieved inside a 12 psi (80kPa) pressure cooker.
Many PC's with 1 fixed setting are +/- 100kPa ( +/- 15 psi) and thus capable of reaching 125 deg C (257 deg F).


 
 
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