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saulsilver
#1 Posted : 3/8/2015 8:54:50 AM

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Hi all,

I've been reading this site since I've looking up for some really cool extraction, maoi-interactions,teks, and I'd say, damn, it's super awesome!

I also want to share with you all my experiments with oilhuasca-nutmeg oil.

I read the posts of oilman, and all about concerning nutmeg-stuff.
Oilman, was right. I can get a strongly stimulant-euphoric effect from nutmeg infused oil (in corn oil actually, not EVO oil). It lasts 5hours, you're not out of mind, like nutmeg-alone-trip, or alchol, or MDXX-like. That's the crucial part for make the trip more potent, and crazy.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm 23 years old from Italy, always trining new thing, studying, ecc.

I hope for everyone sun and flowers, armony and pleasure!

Thanks nexus Big grin
 

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#2 Posted : 3/8/2015 9:05:27 AM

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Good information here at the nexus to study up on and possibly contribute to. Plenty of teks for extractions, if you have questions there's always plenty of people willing to help throughout the community so enjoy friend and welcome to the nexus. Very happy
 
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#3 Posted : 3/11/2015 5:09:46 AM

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Well, hello sir!

I was just checking up on things nutmeg and your post came up at the top of the search. So, greetings from a fellow nutmeg fan.

Quote:
That's the crucial part for make the trip more potent, and crazy.

Just to clarify, that's the nutmeg infused oil you mean? I find a similar thing with nutmeg infused high strength alcohol (~90%). Definitely on the empathogenic stimulant side, with a slight sensory twist to it. Also I have been working on enhancer substances, all herbal of course. I'll have to try the oil thing soon as I don't always want the alcohol in my system!

At the moment I'm preparing a 'Space liqueur' based on mace, nutmeg's sibling spice as it were. I expect to be posting something of a summary of these things in the near future.

I hope you have a fun and informative time here at the Nexus.




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― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
Just Say Know
#4 Posted : 3/11/2015 4:40:22 PM

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Welcome to the nexus; i'm new here and also interested in nutmeg; have no experience tho!
 
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#5 Posted : 3/11/2015 4:46:59 PM
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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
Good information here at the nexus to study up on and possibly contribute to. Plenty of teks for extractions, if you have questions there's always plenty of people willing to help throughout the community so enjoy friend and welcome to the nexus. Very happy


Incredibly true. And the best part is most of the questions have been answered. Just finding the answer isn't always easy.

As far as nutmeg.... I had no idea it was used like that.
 
saulsilver
#6 Posted : 3/16/2015 11:18:21 AM

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I agree with you downwardsfromzero that I don't want alchol in my body.
And 95% pure Alcohol is not cheapy.

Oilman made this thread about Olive Infuse Oil.

I have great time with 5ml of oil with mace, but I don't use 1L of oil but around of 10-15ml.
It's like taking nutmeg but the effect were gone in about 5hours.

My love for nutmeg is that it's almost like marijuana, and when you leave trimiristicin it's super!
Basically nutmeg it's cannabis without CBD and THC, less psychedelic, but I guess that a combo with 200mg of caffeine would be nice for clubbing or party.

Actually I don't like drug-dealer at the parties and in general I'm a DIY-guy. I don't trust people who sells drugs, like pills or crap crystals.

I've to try SSAO inhibitor + oil from nutmeg. I use Glusamine for SSAO. I notice that taking nutmeg alone plus a ton of coffee create a boost of the effect but only mild.
To sum up, I wanna just create a combo/s for party. I don't want speed, fake mdma, or ketamine. All I want is looking into a final nutmeg potentiation, even with nutmeg oil.


Anyway, I think that 69ron is the MAN. I changed everything, TEKS, information, everything.
Thanks Ron.Thumbs up
 
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#7 Posted : 3/16/2015 4:20:41 PM

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saulsilver
#8 Posted : 3/16/2015 5:59:08 PM

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I don't want to play around with ergolines like LSX or something, because makes my mind spinning, full of thoughts, not clear and in peace.

I know that Elemi oil, and Elemi booster could be a crap or for other users great trip.
I don't want to start using DMSO Triple E Tek until a get good result with nutmeg oil with other stuff.

I was thinking about:

SSAO Inhibitors(Glucosamine 1000-1500mg) (For SURE)
Caffeine 200mg (SURE)
Hordenine 100-200mg (NOT sure)
Hot peppers (NOT sure)
5ml of nutmeg oil or mace *
Ginko Biloba (Long lasting, and MAOi)

Calomus Root* (Maybe not, but it's just a theory)



* I found that mace and nutmeg are very different, and even the supermarket nutmeg are different from nutmeg of other store.
Indonesian nutmegs are more sedating, but Indian are more trippy.

The real problem is not the supplement to get a euphoric-stimulant trip, but search the right nutmeg.
It's like marijuana, there is indica,sativa, and well, hibrids.



PAST EXPERIMENTS WITH EO:

Elemi oil: 10%Elemi

5drops oral: Works, like marijuana.
5drops transdermally: Works, like marijuana.

Nutmeg oil: 10%myristicin

25drops: like marijuana.

Sweet Basil: 80% methyl-chavicol

5drops transdermally: something similar to LSA-trip.
15drops oral: Relaxing

PAST EXPERIMENTS WITH NUTMEG ALONE:

2nuts: 48hours of trip. The first 12hours, stomach pain and diharrea, but after 12hours, and a lots of water and food(actually I got munchies) the trip was good, like marijuana but more Zen, less caotic. Know what I mean?
Cons: Red eyes, gastric pain, letargy, no euphoria.

1nuts: The same results above, but with no problem of stomach or something. Last 12hours.

0.5nuts: Less effect but for me very enjoyable. But always marijuana-like effect. 8hours.



 
saulsilver
#9 Posted : 3/16/2015 8:26:28 PM

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After a lot of research here and there, ayurvedic's book,nexus,drug-forum I finally come across with a new elements to get into the hyperspace!
I know Space Cake,Nutmeg, and so on are just for the most of the people shitty crap or something, but I was looking into something for replace alcohol or mild-easy trip.
I don't get shrooms to often or acid, and I don't wanna drink much anymore, and even weed it's for me too much potent.
I also don't love pills in general, because I don't trust dealers or RC's sites. I actually would love growing my own marijuana,mushrooms but I simply can't.

So, the point is that this is the original recipe:

4 parts nutmeg (ground from whole nutmeg)
4 parts almonds (soak overnight and rinse)
4 parts raw pistachios
2 parts cinnamon
1 part cumin
1 part tarragon
1 part oregano
1 part basil
1 part turmeric
1/2 part cayenne pepper
1/2 part black pepper
maple syrup (to taste)

Grind all the dry ingredients into a very fine powder. Add syrup and mix. About 2 tablespoons makes a "decent dose".

All ingredients need to be present. It’s said that if any one of the herbs are omitted, it doesn’t work well.

So that means that the ratio is:

4 Nutmeg 1.9047619048gr
4 almonds soaked 1.9047619048gr
4 Pistachios NOT toasted 1.9047619048gr
2 Cinnamon 0.9523809524gr
1 Cumin 0.4761904762gr
1 Tarragon 0.4761904762gr
1 Oregano 0.4761904762gr
1 Basil 0.4761904762gr
1 Turmeric 0.4761904762gr
0.5 Black pepper 0.2380952381gr
0.5 Chilli 0.2380952381gr
1 Maple syrup 0.4761904762gr (your choice)

** On erowid recommend two tablespoons cooking, or about 15-20gr eye, but to me it seems so.
** The almonds in their shells then take ammollatele a night or a few hours in the dark and then drain. If

used those not soaked you will not have the same effect. This is due to the fact that more is soaked more

Inhibits certain enzymes (non-P450 but ALDH). (For appropriate inquiries, herbpedia.wikidot.com)
** Same thing for the pistachios, ONLY NON-ROASTED (RAW).

I set as standard dose 10gr, so the ratios are balance.
Anyway a normal standard dose is 15-20gr, but I want to point out that the nutmeg dose is low, and not so big.
I think IMHO, that a normal dose of nutmeg between 1 and 5gr is ok, not everyday but it's like taking 10,20,30gr
One nut is 3-5gr.
500mg is a safe dose for Ayurveda. But I don't know when the toxic (due to trimiristicin,tujolene,camphor) starts to kick in. I'm sure that Essential Oil of Nutmeg is almost non-toxic, but I found it less trippy.

Considerations:

Note 1: The mace is perhaps less dangerous than nutmeg, with less trimiristicin, I tried only two times mace alone, and with the first champ(from Indonesia) the mellow-marijuanish feeling starts in 30min, and not 6 hours like nut; also the effect lasts only 3hours. But, I also tried another champ of mace (from Papa Guinea) and the feeling starts immediately and peak after 2hours.
Mace is fantastic!!

Other supplements:

Cocoa (best extract)
Kola
Guarana
Kratom
Green tea (extract)
Star anise P450 Inhibitors
Black cumin P450 Inhibitors
Caffeine
Calamus (?)
Cannabis

Do NOT mix WITH THESE SUBSTANCES:

MAOIs
Kanna
Hypericum (St. Jhon Wort)
Anti-depressants
Yohimbe

Note2: Cocoa and Kratom along very well.

I think and I'm almost certain that a good dose of cocoa,coffee,guaranà, and kratom will make the experience more like MDMA-like, or at least more stimulating and euphoric.

Finally,

Recipe for eat properly the Space Cake:

Preface:
Given that nutmeg is lipo-alcholsolubile is a well thing to use a oil or alchol. In

many books of ayurveda nutmeg is used as a carminative, anti-diarrhea, anti-gastritis and anti-

insomnia. The method they use is to soak in hot milk 1/4 tsp nutmeg before

sleep with a little sugar and butter (ghee).

The Eggnog is quite similar except that inside there as well:

cinnamon, vanilla, liquor (rum), eggs.
Now since I do not drink cow's milk and do not want to avoid alcohol, I change some elements:

Ingredients:
Coconut milk (or almonds milk)
Coconut oil or butter or coconut flakes
Soy lecithin
'Space Cake'

Heat the milk(but less than <80°Pleased, add the lecithin and melt thoroughly, then add all the spices,

mix well and then add oil or butter or coconut flakes.
If you do not want the coconut, use the whole cow's milk with butter (more difficult to digest!)

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