I just finished up an AB on some chaliponga last night, and was baffled at how little I achieved from it. In the past, 150-200 grams has given me about 3 grams of spice, albeit it's still riddled with fats and oils, but I like it this way. Anyways, the extraction I did last night was on 140 grams of chaliponga, and I only got 500mg!?

This doesn't seem right. Either my process got botched somewhere, or this new source of chaliponga is just not as good of quality.

The procedure went as follows.

Boil leaves in water 3 times for 2 hours each.
Reduce all boilings to about 400ml.
Add this to a jar and slowly add 40g of lye while stiring.
Add a saturated saline solution using kosher salt (no iodine or caking agents)
Pull four times with naphtha at 100ml each pull. All pulls were done in a heat bath.
Upon Evap, there was only 500mg! Some of it is brown too, but there was no plant material or base soup sucked up with the naphtha, I am sure of this.

What do you guys think, bad material or did I mess up my procedure?

I should add I spilled about 25-50ml of the reduced boilings, but I don't think that could of contained a gram or more of spice...

I just tried vaping 11mg. This dose of my previous extractions from chali would of been enough for slight visuals, and some euphoria. From this extract, only a slight tingling was felt. It didn't even really smell like dmt, it just smelled like the mint I placed it on in the bong.

Could I of possibly not raised the ph high enough, and all I pulled were fats and oils? It didn't even taste like dmt. I really think I'm smoking fats and oils with only a small fraction of spice.

I still have my basic soup, I'm thinking of adding more lye and doing more pulls sometime to see if there is still dmt in there.

redisolved everything in naphtha, decanted it from the brown sediment that wouldn't dissolve. I then did a back salting with vinegar and water, did two pulls with this, and based the 300ml of water/vinegar with 30g of lye.

This was then pulled with naptha, 100ml and then about 250ml. These two pulls are being evaporated, and I can see small amounts of precipitates.

Hopefully this works, but if it does it doesn't look like I'll get much back from the 500mg of crude extract.

Any advice on where I went wrong would be appreciated.

I think I'm going to hold off on any further extractions til I get the proper lab ware such as sep funnels to make the process more streamlined and successful.

Back salting yielded nothing at all, there was maybe ten mg that was scraped up from the dish...

Low quality starting material. You said it yourself, from another source with the same method you had nice yeilds.

I find it hard to believe that there was nothing in it. I still have like 400g of the leaf...could it be that some of it has some and some doesn't? I doubt it all came from one single plant...

Very well could be. What you can do is powder the whole batch together to evenly distribute potency between the whole thing to account for variation in alkaloid content between different samples from the same batch.

After that's done maybe try testing some out in a brew to determine if & how active it is.

If it provides effect from the dmt, try another extraction on a small amount. Determine what amount you think based on effects would provide with a single gram of dmt.

If you still yeild nothing it's your method. I really don't see where you would have made any fatal errors based on your description though. Looks perfectly fine unless your boiling off the dmt in it's salt form which i doubt.

For future reference always start with small test batches from new suppliers.

Finally got around to powdering the rest of the material and boiling it. I was able to boil it with a bigger flame, as the powdered material didn't rise and pop, spewing boiling water everywhere like the whole leaf material did. After the first filtration, the steam coming off the brew smelled of tryptamines slightly. So hopefully the higher flame made a difference.

Going to be reducing and extracting from this soon. It's currently frozen in a gallon jug. Got a sep funnel to increase accuracy of seperating solvents from basic soup. Plus a vacuum filter set up to really get all the sediment out before pouring into a sep funnel.

Hopefully all goes well this time.

I think I have success!

I did two naptha pulls of 200ml each, after hearing the naptha in a flask on a hot plate until it started bubbling. This was poured into the basic soup and it was so cloudy and dark upon separation that I couldn't even tell the layers apart at first. Only with a flashlight on it could the difference be seen.

Anyways, those two pulls equally 400ml are in a jar, cooling to room temp. It is still somewhat hot to the touch, and already a bunch has crashed out! Picture is attached.

My plan is to let this cool and sit for a few hours, place it in the fridge over night, and tomorrow place it in the freezer. After a day or two I will take off the naptha, place it back into the flask and heat it back up and evaporate it down to half its volume or less. Then repeat the cooking process and see if anything else crashes out. After that I'll just Evap the rest and see what's left.