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Dangers of salts in salt teks? Options
 
t0t0t0
#1 Posted : 2/18/2015 11:21:07 PM
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Salt teks have become a popular topic.

There are regular warnings against using Iodized salts, and typically pure NaCl is recommended. Pure NaCl seems hard to find from ordinary shops while a variety of other natural salt products are available (mountain salt, sea salt etc.).

Two questions that are not clear after extensive reading of salt threads:

1) Iodized salt is not efficient but is it also a real safety risk? For instance through potential formation of poisonous gases or as contamination in final spice?

2) Are other natural salts equally feasible for extraction ie. is it ok to replace pure NaCl with Sea salt for instance as long as it is not Iodized ? If not, is it because it poses some sort of safety risk, or because there are differences in extraction efficiency?

 

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#2 Posted : 2/18/2015 11:31:46 PM

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there is always some iodine in sea salt or even fossil salt...you just don't want any more than that....(added), its not poisonous or anything, but may change the texture of xtals or colour (we asume)? No real danger here....even with the anti caking agents...however, we'd avoid fluoridated salt at all costs for unknown reasons (pineal superstition)

We use the large grained salt (aka ice cream salt) the one you put into a salt mill...
 
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#3 Posted : 2/18/2015 11:52:24 PM

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t0t0t0 wrote:
There are regular warnings against using Iodized salts, and typically pure NaCl is recommended. Pure NaCl seems hard to find from ordinary shops while a variety of other natural salt products are available (mountain salt, sea salt etc.).

No it's not. It's called "dishwasher salt" or "regeneration salt" and it is dirt cheap in any decent supermarket. It is more pure than your average table salt.

t0t0t0 wrote:
Two questions that are not clear after extensive reading of salt threads:

1) Iodized salt is not efficient but is it also a real safety risk? For instance through potential formation of poisonous gases or as contamination in final spice?

Have you done the math on how much iodine there actually is in table salt? Hint: it isn't being taken from the shelves because the meth heads are extracting the iodine from it (but then again, neither are the match books and they are rumored to extract the phosphorus from those.)

Besides, is the iodine in salt a healt risk when you are cooking your vegetables and your potatoes in it? Will it cause a runaway reaction in your soup when you add too much at once? No. IMHO the fear of iodine in salt is mostly a big myth. Can you point to any presumable dangers (with references)?

t0t0t0 wrote:
2) Are other natural salts equally feasible for extraction ie. is it ok to replace pure NaCl with Sea salt for instance as long as it is not Iodized ? If not, is it because it poses some sort of safety risk, or because there are differences in extraction efficiency?

The purpose of the salt is to increase ionic strength of the polar layer, ie. make it more polar, so NaCl is not the only option. You might as well employ MgSO4 sold as epsom salt or as fertilizer, the latter option not guaranteed to be food safe, but in practice it will work fine. Any pH neutral salt will do. Most can't beat the price of dishwasher salt though.

PS: I hope that this post will not contribute to dishwasher salt being taken from the supermarket shelves or it being reformulated ("NEW! with added iodine" Very happy ) because of all the DMT labs are found stocking it.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/19/2015 7:51:19 AM

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Salt is one of the most abundant substances on the Planet...hell, we shovel it out of the sea with diggers and trucks.

If you can't find regular NaCl, then you must live on the moon.

Salt...is just Salt. It is efficient whether the additives are present or not.

The fact is that 'We don't know' if additives will cross the solvent barrier and end up in a vape-able form.

Whilst the additives are clearly edible and pose no risk, whatsoever, to the human gut (in minute quantities).
NOBODY KNOWS if you can smoke them and be safe.

Iodine, and it's derivatives, are added in minute quantities and, in all probability, are not likely to end up trapped in the crystal matrix in any meaningful amount.

It may be perfectly OK...OR... 1ug of the substance (introduced to the brain) may trigger an illness that shows up 50 years later.

SO...UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE...just don't use the additives... it's really that simple.

Use your heads...
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t0t0t0
#5 Posted : 2/19/2015 7:23:22 PM
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Thanks.

Not planning to use Iodized salt anyway but was curious to learn if it has some known healthy risks. Thanks for responses.

Not found pure NaCl from 10 different stores, their salt shelf only had varieties of Iodized salts, sea & mountain salts and other complex salt mixtures but no pure NaCl. Perhaps I just need to look elsewhere than the food section but this was the reason I started to wonder whether ordinary sea salt is ok as a replacement since indeed changing the ionic strength is the goal.

In the end, these discussions are all about safety and it is better to be more careful than ignorant. Thanks for all.

 
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#6 Posted : 2/20/2015 1:28:45 AM

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cyb wrote:
It may be perfectly OK...OR... 1ug of the substance (introduced to the brain) may trigger an illness that shows up 50 years later.

C'mon, we don't even know yet if DMT will turn out to be safe after 50 years... To be concerned only about iodine compounds that are not even likely to end up in the DMT freebase is disproportionate IMHO. And what about people smoking minute amounts of NaCl that (hypothetically) gets into the non-polar and ends up in the DMT? How do we know that's not going to turn out bad in 50 years time?

I believe the iodine scare to be a nonsensical myth. But I buy dishwasher salt anyway, as that not only contains less additives than non-iodized salt but it is also cheaper.
 
 
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