GOD wrote:" The role of endogenous tryptamines in psychosis is an interesting area to explore however, as a more recent study (2009) found significantly higher levels of bufotenine in subjects with autism and schizophrenia than in healthy subjects, also attached.
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No offence ment ...... just a comment ...... I have difficulty with seeing psychosis , autism and schitzophenia in the same converstaion ........ and also the bit about autism and health ? Are autistic people unhealthy ? Are all autistic people ill ? Or is it a gift for some people ? An advantage .
No offense intended. Nor did I mean to imply that autism, schizophrenia, and psychosis are in any way the same thing. Perhaps I could have phrased that better.
What I was getting at was that of endogenous tryptamine compounds that have the potential to be involved in psychosis or act as true "psychotomimetics", bufotenine is the most likely candidate.
The more recent and relevant study I linked to support the idea that bufo may be involved abnormal psychological states found that bufotenine levels were higher in both autistic and schizophrenic subjects than in subjects that were not autistic or schizophrenic. The term healthy to represent the non-autistic and non-schizophrenic subjects was the term the researches themselves used to identify the control subjects:
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Previous studies have suggested that the endogeneous psychotomimetic molecule bufotenine (N-N-dimethyl-5-idroxytryptamine) may play a role in the pathogenesis of severe mental disorders. The potential association of bufotenine with the clinical features of autism and schizophrenia is not entirely understood. In this study, we measured urinary levels of bufotenine in subjects with autistic spectrum disorder (ASD), schizophrenia and healthy comparison subjects free of psychiatric symptoms. We also sought to assess whether urine concentrations of this molecule may be associated with the clinical characteristics of psychiatric patients.
I have no opinion on whether autism is detrimental or advantageous, whether it should be considered an illness or a gift. That is another discussion entirely and not really relevant here. The topic of this thread is the potential role of endogenous tryptamines in abnormal psychological states, which is a broad category that encompasses autism, schizophrenia, psychosis, and a whole host of other states.
I hope that makes things a little more clear.