So i just bought this harmaline hcl

and i was wondering how much to use when doing pharma . Sorry if i sound like idiot. I verynew to this forum and oral dmt

i thought maybe 200 mg harmaline hcl and 100 dmt fumrate?

I read that already but i was looking for more of a personal response . I am confused so is the harmaline hcl , harmaline alkaloids ? Also ive read people doing 500 mg oral ? and some saying 100 mg only gave them a dreamy state. Im looking for a nice smooth dmt experience whats a good starter dose if you know. Also am i fucked i only have a 0.1 scale

The harmala alkaloids if extracted from syrian rue basically consist of 2 main ingredients.Harmine and harmaline.

The proper way to get yourself close to full inhibition would be to does in relation to your weight.I've found myself to be fully inhibited from mao enzymes by dosing 4mg/kg body weight.

For a soft experience i always dose in the realm of 100-150mg and the effects last for around 2 hrs.

Regarding the scale you use i think you will be fine measuring fractions of 10 as 0.01.

Aw sweet will do mine is also the combo. Whats a good setting for oral dmt i live with other people so i cant do it in the day but i planned to turn out all my lights no music and let the dmt take me away. Also could you compare vapor dmt vs smoked dmt for me? I get so nervous before i take a hit of dmt thats why i want to try the oral .

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Ime the late evenings to night time is the perfect time to do it.I like doing it at night time when everything settles down,also the type of silence and the energy you get at night is more special and suitable for this kind of exp.As for the setting i would make myself comfty and have some carpets and some blankets on the floor,some ambient music,warm temp,maybe some candles and some myrrh or frankinsence burning before the trip..i also usually ask my beloved one to be a sitter for me just in case...don't forget to have a clear intention,respect and gratitude towards the experience...i hooked you up with the aya diagram in the link above..that should help you alot.
Smoking is a little tricky as you can easily burn the xtals and damage them that's why i turned to changa instead of freebase.When doing changa the probability of burning gets much lower as the spice is infused in a herbal blend that releases the dmt vapour by slowly holding the heat near your pipe/bong/gvg and by slowly taking tokes.

Also changa is much more friendly than freebase because it comes up gradually and the trip lasts longer than the average freebase trip,it tastes better and the added harmalas enhance the trip very nicely making it easier to breakthrough.Imo changa is the next level of smoking/vaping dmt...is the art of smoking changa also the art of creating blends.
As for the "pre flight anxiety" i also feel it eeeverytime i want to engage in a hyperspace journey..but after you will have your first harmala experience you will notice that the effects of the maoi literally take away that anxiety also.

thanks for it man gave me some good insight, i checked out the link you showed me and when it says it means "little death" i know what they mean haha. Can you imagine the jungle folk tripping on this shit way back when. When they drank this shit i imagine they would bet anything that this is it their about to kick the bucket haha.

Travel safe friend!

I defiantly will brotha look for it next saturday . Have a good day man

200 mg harmaline HCL is exactly my sweet spot for pharma.
100 fumarate corresponds to 76 mg freebase, hmmm, to much for starters IMO, you can really start on 30 freebase (40 fumarate). 70 freebase is an upper limit for this explorer recently.
30 minutes between H and D seems to augment intensity then when taken together, ymmv.

My aim is to make work with intentions still possible and not to be overloaded by a supermax of explosion. It is simply a choice why you do it. If you want to be destroyed and ripped then go for it, been there done that, and I can't say anyone shouldn't, just a matter of priorities is life.

If you want a fast come on, drink 1 liter of luke warm water in a firm pace, vomit it all out, again 1 liter warm water, expel also (need to stick a finger in for that), perhaps a 3rd time this routine, the stomach giving no burst anymore on the last contraction, now it's empty. The latest burst should be almost clear water coming out, now you're clean. Settle for like 30 minutes, take the H, again 30 minutes, take the D. Never had faster take-offs on pharma.

damn nice info . Do you get naueses from the hcl? I dont plan on using the pharma to heal . Maybe use it to mend my personalty to a nicer one. I mostly just want to experience the devine moments. Ive seens some fucked up stuff vaping . Skinless people , death and "the devil". But ive alway kept my peace except when i thought i was dying but even then it didnt take long for me to let go . What is taking off on pharma compared to smoking. When i smoke everything gets bright and blurry then my oev's start to come like walls changing colors and stuff . Then i close my eyes and the trip begins . all within 10 seconds. Also what are the trips differnces between smoking and oral iyo?

Everyone differs, this we must take into account to start with.

The body buzz feels same to me in it's nature, and also the buzz intensity is equal IME.
But pharma, here, no audio nor much of visual circus, no walls and patterns morphing stuff.
It is all about experience of existing in an utterly intense way, and starting from 50-60 freebase it has a moment of insanity to deal with. On 70 that moment get very mature.
There is visual impact indeed, but way more modest than vape, not really comparable.
(I must admit being very visual stuborn wired)

The come-up: is very much impacted by the harmaline, shivers, cold, and a tiny dash of nausea but nothing comparable than when you drink brewed plants. The harmaline kicks in firm, but the tryptamine buzz, once noticed, is coming up more gradual, taking some more time to grow to it's potential climax. So there is more time to adapt. The shivers and cold are usually 100% gone when the tryptamine buzz reaches it's interesting phase.

Then when the tryptamine buzz has tamed down, the harmaline is keeping up the ceremony in a very comfy and interesting way, there is an extension in pharma that freebase vaping without maoi is lacking. You actually don't fall/come down, you glide very smooth in a very shallow curve.
Again, ymmv.

Hi mrbart4444,

Please be more careful with your choice of words. The forum tries to maintain a mature and intellectually stimulating attitude. Talk about getting "fucked up" from "this shit", however genuinely it expresses your experience, distracts from the forum's intent.

Please do not underestimate the power of the substances you are working with. Your intent may not be to heal, that is okay with me, but do be careful that you are not hurting yourself either.

Another reason to be careful with your choice of words is that other people read what you write and might end up hurting themselves. Careless words invite carelessness. Careful words invite carefullness.

Now as to your questions, I agree with Jees on the numbers. But for me, it works best if I take the harmalas together with the DMT instead of waiting 30 minutes. Sometimes, eating a bit of bread helps to get the get things going if the preparatory fasting has shut down the digestive processes too much.

You should experiment with the amounts for yourself, starting with the numbers Jees gave. It may take a few tries to find your sweet spot. It may also take a few tries to develop a certain sensitivity to the pharma experience, in order to get out the most of it.

I wish you the best of luck, safe travels and let us know what your results are when you have worked out what works for you.

Absolutely, I had a time going on 140 - 170 freebase D with ease, unthinkable right now.

Why I find 200 mg HarmalineHCL optimal is that it delivers duration and just not being too much taking the stage of the climax, it better doesn't compete the "light" down. It does take the stage of the come down phase, but there it suits a nice purpose.

The daytime can also be very nice if you are in a natural environment such as a forest. I've noticed that trees can take on an "other" quality. Geometrical patterns in plants that one normaly doesn't notice become apparent, etc. the forest just comes alive in a way not normaly perceivable. One can gain insights about their local plants as well.

I've read that before the spaniards arrived in South America, the Indians drank the brew during the day, only switching to night time to avoid persecution by the church.

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Sorry if I'm off topic but I've had beautiful experiences in the woods during the day and just had to share.

tripping on dmt outside was a one time thing with me . Maybe it was because i smoked it but it was definitely overwhelming . My vison went off you know. Its like seeing somthing for the first time again if that makes sense.

Yes, outside experiences can be overwhelming that is why you should do it in the safest spots you know.Also have necessary things on hand like water, fruit, proper clothes if needed.

If carefully prepped outdoors sessions can be the most rewarding of all.

mrbart4444: Please read the Attitude Page thoroughly and in it's entirety, and then edit your original post accordingly.