SWIM is coming down from blast #6 ...
These are just his rambling thoughts

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The thread name may sound lame but, it portrays SWIM's mind during his experiences quite well.

After multiple pulls with naptha, he did 2 xylene pulls.

He evapped these pulls until they were syrupy liquid, not really smelling of xylene...
not really smelling of DMT...


2 zig-zag papers were dunked in this goo..

about 1cmx1cm was smoked in one hit each time ... probably leaving residual jungle in the pipe.
DO NOT ASSUME that this 1cm2 piece will suit you ... jungle is some weird shit.

As for DMT, you know how it goes ... SWIM cannot really describe his experiences.

The points he'd like to make though are:

LACK OF COLOR, BIG TIME ...
Instead of the normal crystal shaped color patterns with open eyes ...
it was more like the worl was being twisted into those patterns...

Lack of being "sucked" into experience but instead, the experience was in the normal world .. just fucking nuts.

Sound was EXTREMELY pleasent on jungle each time to SWIM vs normal DMT.

Whenever SWIM did have "colorful" CEV, it was of quite different hues.
There was alot of pink/neon orange/bright red/ bright yellow...
Colors he never gets with N-N/


MM Fairies too BTW ... SWIM never gets these on N-N

For the people that call jungle "dark" ... You musta had a bad trip bro, this shit is wonderful.

Someone mentioned a "plastic" feeling with jungle ... well ...
SWIM can understand this.
His body remined him of a ken-doll in a fantasy world if this makes sense to anyone.

The feeling of jungle reminds him of his most potent aya experience where he met
"Kali" ... Where it was so realistic in his living room that he didn't know what to do.
He tried recreating the feelings he had that day many times ... it never worked.
Until Jungle.

This shit just isn't normal DMT. PERIOD.
BUT IT IS FUCKING EXCELLENT.
SWIM decided he will never use naptha again...
from now on, only xylene pulls on mimosa xD.

I like the jungle stuff, but I think what jungle actually is varies in every plant source. I've had jungle that was always feminine, some that was dark and some that produced nothing but folk made out of rings.

I'm guessing it's a ratio of the unknown alkaloid : DMT that makes the biggest difference...

but yes...

I love it to With regular DMT I seem to be lying back staring into wonder, but with jungle it's almost like I'm leaning forward, rubbing my hands together saying "yes, yes... that's the way"

sooo interesting....

Sweet! SWIM is new to the spice and hasn't had the chance to go jungle yet. Looking forward to a couple xylene or toluene pulls when he can.

instead of using xylene..you may want to try d-limonene...its much healthier and doesnt reek soooo bad

SWIM wasn't aware d-limonene or w/e pulled jungle.
he'll look over the teks a lil later

I think it actually pulls the other alkaloids waaay better than xylene. Haven't tried toluene... probably never will.

ADDED:

SWIM wanted to note that on a few of these trips, he heard alot of sounds, kind of like lasers
or weird energy flying through the air.
He's never experienced ANY sounds on straight DMT.
The only other time he has was with oral mimosa+syrian rue+belladonna

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SWIMs round 3-25 xD:

For each attempt, a rolling paper was dunked in "jungle goo" and then wrapped in another rolling paper to help absorb it.
SWIM doesn't think these papers could have been anymore saturated.
Each "hit" was about a 1cm wide piece of this paper.

SWIM does like to point out though, there was a good buildup of residual jungle.
His last 5 smokes were simply what was left in the pipe.

Each session was 1-3 hits.
Full hit, held in until SWIM was tripping so hard he forgot he had lungs to exhale with xD.

rounds 3-8 were quite nice dude.
The actual amount smoked is unknown.

SWIM noticed the when he smoked it each time, if he looked at his body, it seemed to be seperate from the world.
It reminded him of how some people mention a "plastic" feel to jungle.

The was alot more joy with OEV as opposed to "normal" DMT.
Whether this is just the power of his mind or real, it was there...

Things actually had alot more mellow/slow vibe to them vs normal DMT so it seemed.

There's not alot more to say about those instances.

#9:

Wow ... this took SWIM to an awful place.
It reminded him of oral mimosa+ syrian rue .. but nothing he's ever experienced on straight DMT.
To desribe it is not possible.

The rest:
First of all, SWIM had about 8 alcoholic drinks in him....
Luckily, this didn't bite him in the ass as it normally does.

in succession, multiple hits..
There was a bit of confusion during these trials for some reason... SWIM seemed kind of lost but, very happy.
He noted the disassociated "plastic" feeling big time.
He really wanted to stay open eyed more but, the trips were just too strong.

I started this post thinking I could portray SWIM's rides to you guys..
I guess he's lost his memory of the events.

All I know is, he really enjoyed himself.

If he has one good comparison of Jungle vs Normal it would be that
Normal DMT takes you UP and away into the cosmos, or so it seems.

Jungle seems to be a good bit slower, and alot deeper...
Kind of like it's tapping into different dimensions or something so to say.
That might sound whacked but, that's how it feels to SWIM.

Blah ... it kinda makes me sad; my lack of ability to better portray the experiences.
I do think people need to ignore alot of the bad things said about jungle though.
Different, yes.
Weird, yes.
Not as strikengly visual, yes.
Scary/Evil, only if you let it be.

ADDED:
SWIM is trying xylene only pulls from ~700g of some very CRAPPY mimosa he had.
With this current supply, it should yield about 1.5g of normal DMT MAX.
Maybe ~1g of jungle.

He cannot wait to try the combination.
To see what the "here" of jungle and "there" of DMT combined feels like.

OOOOOOOHHHHH BUDDDY!!!

SWIM's life has been soooo much better since DMT.
Given he has some rough rides, he always feels so happy when he has DMT.
Chemical or psychological IDK, but damn .

Hope ya'll are feeling well too .

SWIM's coming back to earth as we speak

Jungle was smoked .... things started to form with a O-O type look...
Colored balls of energy connected by lines.

As the tunnel to the new dimension was traversed, SWIM realized it was nothing special...
It was actually a pee-wee type football game in a small stadium.
SWIM's tunnel had ended there.

He remembers a couple little girls being kinda confused by SWIM's arrival though, not as confused
as one would suspect... Much like the whole "portal" thing was a daily occurence for them.

SWIM layed under the stands questioning everything like he normally does until he
came down to reality.

That's about all he can remember.
Quite interesting to him.

Exactly how I felt.

I've had this a few times with low does NN trips but Jungle seemed to have this effect much more frequently. When the NN did this it felt as though it was playing with me. I loved it alot.

I would take two medium hits of the J-spice. In about 10 seconds I would feel it. The colors were different. (I had a tanish waxy jungle spice and deffinately much more potent than NN)

I eventually could see hallucinations filling voids in my room. Entities of an unfamiliar nature bouncing to and from my wall and my face.

I would play with these hallucinations. I would wave my hand actually THROUGH the slightly geometric colorful hallucinations in the spaces of air in front of me. They would blow away like as if a smooth breeze had sweept my room. Only to return with a different shape and all together different form. As if the disruption of my hand had not disturbed the natural progression in the geometry of the hallucination.

A Xylene pull is something I will ALWAYS do after each extraction. I had a little more trouble getting the xylene to separate from the sludge. Maybe next time after the naptha pull's SWIM will add a bit more water. Maybe this will help the xylene come through idk.

Thanks for the responses, including you Darkbb .
As for adding extra water to help seperate the xylene, SWIM believes this
may help some but, probably not as you hope.
Xylene, alike Jungle, seems to have a slower way about it than naptha.

When this thread was started, SWIM was coming down from multiple(lol) trips...
His intentions then were somewhat lacking.

Now though, I'd really appreciate if folks could keep posting their experiences with "Jungle DMT" in here.
For once I'd like to get the red stuff figured out.

I was quite skeptical as to whether or not it was anything different than n-n but, after multiple reports from SWIM,
I have to conclude it surely is.

There's definetely a different space accessed while on PURE jungle.
SWIM is currently doing a 100% xylene STB.
He'll test the combined N-N/Jungle hopefully in a couple days.

Meanwhile, Please keep posting folks .

peace.


[ Edited for spelling xD ]

This reminds me of my adventures in the jungle. I see images that look like links of a chain similar to the O-O, but very intricately woven... more often than not orange and black.

Have you ever gotten nausea from your jungle? I smoked a quite large amount through a crack pipe (Just so happened to have one laying around from my earlier days of drug use). It was magnificent with visuals but with too much physical side effects...

I've had many types of trips from the J-spice. One I remember was a bunch of manly entities flexing muscles and just being hugely strong. I've had entities that look like gangsters jumping around my room :o.

I can't wait to hear your reports Tropane. Really. I'm excited... I've smoked it like that before but didn't use a enough jungle.

SWIM has gotten nausea both from Jungle and N-N ...
He's not inclined to think there were contamanents..
Instead, he boils it down to psychological aspects, much like bad trips.

There seems to be so much more "set" form to jungle trips SWIM has experienced.
He's not sure whether this is purely coincidence or just how it is but, that's the most he has to add for now.

SWIM is currently drying his xylene only STB from 700g.
It's almost ready.

It's got a light tan color to it and the consistency of wax.

SWIM's not too concerned anymore about jungle itself, at least for the time being.
He will however be reporting all of his experiences with the mixed extraction of Jungle and N-N from his mimosa.

For all of SWIM's future reports, here's how the "hits" are made:
Jungle/N-N goo, still contamed with xylene...
1 zig-zag paper SOAKED in this fluid.
2 more papers wrapped around that one to help absorb the fluid.
Each set of papers is cut into 4-6 hits, depending on how soaked they are.

These hits are rolled into balls...
They're now very waxy and waiting for a lighter .
SWIM probably won't be letting me know anything more for a couple more days so............


A couple things added:
The fluid was very thick BTW, even more so than maple syrup.
like THICK ...

A FOAF who has tried both N-N and Jungle tells SWIM that this xylene pull
yields quite a strange high such as Jungle but with ALOT more visuals such as N-N

SWIM has yet to try it.

Jungle and nn its a good combo it will take you beyond and further.I posted about this a while ago. Cant wait to hear your tales. We smoked it on a salvia leaf bed some amazing shit. This rolling paper method sounds interesting could you provide some details like how it burns/how long/how many hits of of one sqaure. Thanx.

Added (MAN I always forget something!!!!):
It burns well ...
Direct flame (so far, will try vaporizing soon)
Sometimes catches on fire.
Hits were full-lunged, constant flame.

SWIM's not sure if this was the best way to go about this but, he doesn't
have a scale at the moment so these papers are kinda acting as his "gauge."

Size for size, N-N vs SWIM's squares, I think N-N has more potency. For sure.
But with the Jungle involved, Well ... you should get the picture.

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SWIM smoked a square today.
3 hits from the same square, all about 20-30 minutes apart.

Each trip was different ...
They were rather light trips, ie, no real OEV except for confusing OEV ...
Not sure how to describe it really.

As for CEV, it was rather interesting.
With the combined N-N and Jungle, SWIM thought he would have no visuals whatsoever because
of how he felt during intake. Well ... .
After closed eyes for maybe 10-20 seconds, that all changed.
There were visuals for sure.

It was weird because SWIM could almost pick apart the N-N and Jungle visuals during the ride.
I will warn you though that the substances didn't like trying to be seperated.
It's like they wanted SWIM to appreciate the beauty and strength of both, all at once.

There was ALOT of deja-vu in these experiences BTW.
If that means anything to you.

Now to try to describe the visuals is something else.
There was alot of darkness alike Jungle alone but,
alot more of the crystal like N-N visuals.

SWIM noticed how Jungle seemed to bring him life-like places.
Well, this made for an extrememly interesting ride to a circus in SWIM's first trip.
He doesn't know how to explain it.

Just imagine being the star in a circus while tripping on pure DMT and you'll have an idea lol.

Trip 2 well ... was something else.
SWIM's been having some negative vibes in his daily life lately and hasn't been able to figure it out.
Kinda like depression. I know, "boo-hoo", I'm only telling ya cuz it applies to the trip.

The second trip took place in a very dark space.
Not dark psychologically but, literally dark.
There were all sorts of purplish plant-like visuals.
The plants gave SWIM a strong feeling that they were actually machines.
At one point SWIM started to get very uncomfortable.
Then out of the blue, SWIM had a special kinda of visual appear.
He's only experienced this before on mimosahausca (which he assumes also contains Jungle aside the N-N.)
It was a very life-like, non trippy, visual of certain things in his life that he hadn't put much real thought into.
It winds up these things have been bothering SWIM ALOT, without him realizing it.
The rest of the trip was spent reflecting on these things that have been negatively effecting SWIM's life.

Trip 3, not too eventful.
Remember, these "trips/hits" were from the same "square."
There was alot of OEV type distortions, no colors really.
SWIM just watched as objects on the wall moved around and [lack of words] weird ass movements .

To compare each of these hits to normal DMT dosages, I'm not sure how to do.
SWIM has had normal N-N experiences that had ALOT more color but didn't feel quite as strong
nor seem to have as much meaning to them.

He's also had overwhelming Jungle experiences with minimal visuals.

He thinks the ratio of N-N:Jungle could be a little better with more N-N but remember,
these were only 1 hit sessions so, SWIM could simply not know.

Tomorrow he'll try 2-hitters .

The next day he'll try 3-hitters (which seems to exhaust his "squares"

He's plenty of this material left so there should be some interesting tales so long as he can remember them .

SWIM thought he was gonna do two hits xD ... NOT!
SWIM has for some reason been using direct flame when he NEVER used to.
Well, he switched back to vaporizing yesterday.

One giant blast was consumed, whoa buddy!

The weird thing about this trip was that at first it was just a CEV field of colors and patterns.
Then these patterns seemed to come out of the normal field of vision and enter SWIM.
They flowed into his stomach, up to his mind, then out the top of his head.

As they came out of him, so did a bunch of negative "things" from SWIM's life, like
the mimosa extract was literally showing him EVERYTHING that's been bothering him.

This experience was kind of like the one SWIM previously posted but, much stronger and alot clearer.

SWIM noted that his OEV and CEV were quite similiar in this trip.
SWIM normally gets very little OEV.

SWIM's had bad trips where he knew his state of mind was obviously off.
He finds the mimosa extract showing him "what" instead of ravishing his mind to be rather interesting.
The "spirit of the plant" if you'd call it such, would literally tell SWIM "you are too uncomfortable with yourself for this."

Peace.

Yo, sorry for this major noob question, i tried to inform myself a little better, but i couldn't find any straight answers to my questions, i really hope it's ok to ask them here.

But, what exactly is Jungle?
How different is the method to extract this?
I extracted only with Heptane, and Hexane, i always have very clear crystals of NN, sometimes i have some waxy stuff behind, but i assume it's not the waxy/oily stuff that is talked about here?

I am very interested though, i love NN-DMT, but this Jungle stuff i see popping up in several threads seems to be of a whole different league then the ussual DMT.
Can you extract NN-DMT and Jungle DMT in one extraction, is it a form of failed extraction, or are there different methods used?
Also, how different is this molecule in structure in comparison?
Sorry for this thread polution, if i need to open a new topic for this, please tell me, no problem.

You need a stronger solvent like xylene or limonene to extract and that will pull DMT/N-Oxide/Jungle/Fats/Tannins and the kitchen sink.

No one really knows what it is, but most educated guesses would say its a mix of DMT and other alkaloids from the plant.