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IANS
#1 Posted : 10/1/2014 6:39:29 AM
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In the six months since discovering the spice, ive done it around 50 times. I've only recently started fusing it with harmalas. Last week I went 3 rounds in 3 days ending with my first ever pharma session. These rounds perhaps were not the most powerful, but most life changing by far that i've experienced, maybe someday i'll do a write up.

Im planning another round with pharma in a few weeks, but until then im going to micro dose harmalas and see what happens. This could end sooner then later I dont know.

I've seen posts by other trying this same thing end in failure, but I've never been sick or had nausea of any sort on the spice, maybe its because i eat light and health and drink lots of distilled water. Hope this is the differences for me. I do smoke cigarettes and drink coffee and beer however, and sometime EAT when i eat out.

Intent: Feel better live better and hopefully quit smoking.

Separation & recombined, the break down is %70 Harmine, %30 Harmaline.

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Day one: 40mg in the am, 50mg in the pm.

Literally started to feel warm and fuzzy about 90 mins after the am dose, but nothing overly dramatic. Took friend out to eat, bacon eggs pancakes with no ill effects. Mine was very clear and felt great.

More warm and fuzzy good feel after pm dose, drank some coffee no real ill effect from that. Caffeine is a poison however not a stimulant, it causes a release of adrenaline to push it out of the system as quickly as possible. I didnt drink a lot so it my be interesting to see how that plays out later.


I'll update everyday or two for the durations.
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#2 Posted : 10/1/2014 7:37:07 AM

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Why do you drink distilled water? Its very bad for you. Water should be full of minerals because if not water will absorb all minerals from your body. I suggest u check this out.
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#3 Posted : 10/1/2014 2:05:10 PM
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Litwin wrote:
Why do you drink distilled water? Its very bad for you. Water should be full of minerals because if not water will absorb all minerals from your body. I suggest u check this out.


Don't believe the lies, take a minute to understand the difference between organic and inorganic minerals. You get organic minerals from foods, primarily fruits and vegetables. I've done a great deal of research this year on many things health related, I'm on a mission. Distilled water and garden grown fruits and vegetables are about the only thing i would feel comfortable preaching.

Andrew Norton Webber explains things far better then i ever could: http://www.youtube.com/r...ery=Andrew+Norton+Webber
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#4 Posted : 10/1/2014 2:17:00 PM

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Cool Experiment, keep us updated!

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Please provide a reputable source for these claims.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/1/2014 2:47:39 PM
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Quick update

After writing the original post i drank a 2nd cup of coffee and ended up chain smoking 5 or 6 cigarettes. I was buzzing pretty good from that, went to bed and passed out almost immediately. In the morning had somewhat of a hangover effect, its not what you would call pleasant.

Its to early to say anything, but harmalas sure seem to amplify and prolong the effects of nicotine and caffeine. The good news is i feel more disgusted then ever about these two things..
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#6 Posted : 10/1/2014 3:08:38 PM

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Well, both are highly addictive, but also neuroprotective and/or help against parkinsons disease. Caffeeine is also nootropics in its effects. So there are two sides to it. Personally, i have found caffeeine and caapi somewhat problematic. Especially Mate proved to be a horrible admixture. Which is weird, because its cousin illex guayusa is used as an admix, i believe among the shuar (but could be wrong).

It is really wise to watch what you eat during your experiment, because caapis effects compound after a while...so you'll be fully inhibited most of the time. Even after a week of low dose caapi teas i felt definatly psychedelic in waking life....

 
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#7 Posted : 10/1/2014 4:21:09 PM

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IANS wrote:

Don't believe the lies, take a minute to understand the difference between organic and inorganic minerals. You get organic minerals from foods, primarily fruits and vegetables. I've done a great deal of research this year on many things health related, I'm on a mission. Distilled water and garden grown fruits and vegetables are about the only thing i would feel comfortable preaching.


Excuse me, but minerals by definition are inorganic material! Drinking destilled water in large quantities is indeed dangerous because it will cause a loss of electrolytes (mainly Na+ and Cl-). Your kidneys cannot discard destilled water, your urine will always contain electrolytes (minerals)! This means if you don't substitute this loss of electrolytes by nutrition, you will start to have serious side effects! I clearly see no logical explanation why someone would drink destilled water.

Then on the subject caffeine: Caffeine is an antagonist at the so called Adenosin-receptors which are normally responsable for downregulating the neural activity by binding Adenosin, which is produced due to high celular activity (this is a rudementary explanation, feel free to study more about ATP/ADP and general celular functions)- this is called negative feedback mechanism. In short terms, caffeine inhibts this negative feedback, altering/augmenting neuronal activity. But not because it is a poison and the body intents to flood it out by releasing adrenaline! Please keep in mind Paracelsus - "dosis facit venenum!" - when stating that this or that is poison!
 
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#8 Posted : 10/1/2014 4:29:45 PM

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Be careful with ANYTHING after dosing harmalas for a couple of days/a week.
I drunk a cup of coffee once after ingesting Harmalas 5 days in a row (more macro than micro dosing), and the coffaine was like cocaine (way too much). I felt very restless, had a light hypertension, felt very energetic but also slightly psychotic/fractured.
I was happy when it was out of the system.
 
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#9 Posted : 10/1/2014 5:31:38 PM
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I'm not trying to open a debate on such things, but i do believe western education is somewhat lacking and agenda driven. I do know of all things i've tried to date as far as health goes, nothing has made a more positive impact then the switch to distilled water NOTHING, well juicing is pretty amazing as well. Smile


Irrlicht wrote:

Excuse me, but minerals by definition are inorganic material! Drinking destilled water in large quantities is indeed dangerous because it will cause a loss of electrolytes (mainly Na+ and Cl-). Your kidneys cannot discard destilled water, your urine will always contain electrolytes (minerals)! This means if you don't substitute this loss of electrolytes by nutrition, you will start to have serious side effects! I clearly see no logical explanation why someone would drink destilled water.


Plants absorb inorganic minerals and threw the miracle of photosynthesis transform them into organic minerals.

* Organic minerals- these are once living, or are living and can bring life to cells. These contain carbon, and their electrons spin clockwise, just like those of the human body. Additionally, these cells can form an ionic bond with the body and can easily break down into materials to help with bodily function, such as tissue repair.

* Inorganic materials- these were never living, without carbon and cannot bring life to cells. The body treats these metals like toxins and are tightly held together; they cannot be easily broken down. And, their electrons spin counterclockwise, out of sync with the rest of the body.


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Then on the subject caffeine


I dont know for sure how it functions, but it makes me sick and its additive. Even more so on harmalas im my case.



I would like to stay on subject, so i'll choose my wording more wisely. Wut?
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#10 Posted : 10/1/2014 6:27:35 PM

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obliguhl wrote:
Cool Experiment, keep us updated!

@Litwin
Please provide a reputable source for these claims.

My dear friend. Water is the blood of this planet and theres reason why its full of minerals. Water need to travel long journey before its mature and good for drinking. If u like to learn more about it I recommend book by Finley Eversole "Ifinite Energy Technologies" if not u can just google.
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#11 Posted : 10/1/2014 7:13:57 PM

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Litwin, i do know that minerals are important and i also don't dispute the importance of water, not only for us humans but the planet as a whole. I was referring to the part where distilled water somehow acts like a magnet to pull minerals out of your body. I mean, it is common sense that you should not drink only distilled water if you have no other source for minerals (such as leafy greens).

Moreover, Finley Eversole recommends drinking distilled water in "Energy Medicine Technologies" page 199 as s "low toxin program".
 
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#12 Posted : 10/1/2014 8:16:06 PM

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I agree that distilled water can be used for detox but don't see why u should keep it as a steady diet. Its doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe you know something I don't.When u hit google its pretty obvious its bad for you.
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#13 Posted : 10/1/2014 8:55:33 PM
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Go ahead and distill some spring or tap water and look at the residue left behind, its nothing more then concrete. LoL!

A water molecule can only carry so much and when your drinking water full on inorganic's its unable to pick up and hold waste and flush it out of the body.

Eat all the concrete you want, LoL!
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#14 Posted : 10/1/2014 8:55:42 PM

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IANS wrote:
Quick update

After writing the original post i drank a 2nd cup of coffee and ended up chain smoking 5 or 6 cigarettes. I was buzzing pretty good from that, went to bed and passed out almost immediately. In the morning had somewhat of a hangover effect, its not what you would call pleasant.

Its to early to say anything, but harmalas sure seem to amplify and prolong the effects of nicotine and caffeine. The good news is i feel more disgusted then ever about these two things..


caffeine and harmalas, you say.
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I (mostly macro) dosed harmalas either in freebase form or through caapi or rue tea for the better part of 2 years almost everyday. I don't really take caffeine though and I don't smoke cigarettes so I can't comment on that, just be careful not to overdo the caffeine because it can get uncomfortable. I think they can indeed help with addiction but obviously other factors come into play, and daily dosing seems much much more useful when you combine it with a good diet/lifestyle changes and somewhat frequent full-dose aya or pharma journeys.



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#16 Posted : 10/2/2014 10:22:04 AM
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Thanks for the on subject replies, I look at this as a learning experience and sincerely appreciate the insight from those who have been down this road.


Day two: 15mg in the am, 35mg in the pm.

It was a busy work day and felt somewhat uneasy about taking more, so i only did 15mg in the am with no notable effect. As mentioned i woke with somewhat a hangover from the caffeine/tobacco on day one, but also a underlying health glow feel. Overall it was a good feel day.

Took the 35mg in the pm and passed out for a few hours, went to a girl friends house, ended up taking a percocet and drinking 5 beers. Thats life i guess, but no side effects from doing so.


Tomorrow i switch to decaf/herbal teas and caffeine will be gone from my life. I will be uping the dosage somwhat over the weekend.
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#17 Posted : 10/3/2014 8:05:27 AM
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Day three: 70mg in the am, 20mg in the pm.

Worked hard yesterday, stayed out late, and didn't sleep much. Caffeine has been eliminated from my diet. Physically I'm tired but mental awake. The warm fuzzy feel is back and mild psychedelic effects best describe as waves or pulses of energy partially in the frontal region of my head. Overall I'm enjoying the effects, music sounds incredible, food taste great etc. Passed out shortly after the PM dose. So far no major side effect to report other then some unpleasant hangover effects from caffeine.
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