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Hypnosys
#1 Posted : 9/15/2014 10:12:32 AM

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Hello spiritual friends. :-)

I did my first extraction of MHRB, with the STB tek last week-end....
and as i'm a newbie with extracting DMT, i would like to kindly ask you to check the picture below, and tell me if the final product needs re-crystallization or not. I'll much appreciate your help.

I would also appreciate some advises from an experienced users, about how to prepare for my first trip to hyperspace and what to expect as a feeling. I have previous experience with psilocybin and some lsd dots, bit DMT is something else.. i respect it and i'm even little scared for my first time, as a person i'm very emotional one, and i don't really know what to expect, even thought i read all about it on 2 years research..

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#2 Posted : 9/15/2014 10:22:28 AM

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Looks fine to me. What to expect? Could be many things, the emotions are sometimes alien too. Typical is euphoria, disjointedness, free, light , heavy, fear, astonishment, amazement, awe-struck, hilarity, absurdness, HUMBLED. SOme people compare it to a high dose mushroom trip but its still unique.
Enoon recently wrote up https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=41204 a great very well thought out guide.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/15/2014 11:10:12 AM

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The experience is indescribable. Nothing can truly prepare you for it.. everyone is nervous before blast off no matter how many times you have done it.

Either way you will come back amazed with a smile on your dial and whole lot of questions Very happy

Enjoy, good luck and keep us posted Thumbs up

 
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#4 Posted : 9/15/2014 1:27:34 PM

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Wow Smile Thank you for your swift replies and your help! Smile

I feel now more assured that my pull was successful and i can process further, to my first DMT experience...i'm still stressed thought... Ah & so excited about it! Goosebumps

...i feel DMT like is a really special tool to open a portal to another dimension, another type of consciousness and not a drug.. It's a sacred tool.

I've read somewhere that the first feeling is a lack of breath when you smoke DMT.. and the feeling you are psychically dying? Is that true from your personal experience? I hope i wont freak out and ruin my trip if this occurs...

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P.S: (Sorry for my poor English.. but i'm Bulgarian and i live in Belgium, where i speak French, so please apologies.)
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#5 Posted : 9/15/2014 4:12:22 PM

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Hello Smile

It does indeed look usable to me. Reading some trip reports can help, but like some said, nothing can truly help you prepare for a breakthrough experience. Therefore I would just start with a low, non breakthrough dose. In my experience its helps with being nervous, since you know you wont be completely overwhelmed and therefore there is less reason to be nervous. Well, that works for me anyway Big grin. After that you gain in confidence and start with a better mind set for higher doses.

It also takes some time to get hang of smoking it efficiently; another reason to start with low dosages. Do you have a vaporizer, bong?

As for your question regarding the lack of breath and dying. For me, at least not at lower a dose. Sounds more like what you get from taking a very big hit, on your way to complete ego death.

Ps. Your English is fine Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 9/15/2014 4:59:06 PM

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stuff in the pics looks good to me just make sure its fully evaporated no smell of solvent left whatsoever.

My advice is to take your time and don't have alot of expectations.
Ease into it with smaller doses and get used
to the feelings. Stay grounded and choose your setting wisely,
a place with no potential distractions whatsoever.

Use deep breathing if and when it gets intense.
Don't let it scare you , hold your ground just observe what unfolds.
learn to talk to yourself during intense moments reassure yourself that your ok.
try not to panic. its really ok, no matter what happens you will return to normal.

Try not to read into the experience too much at first just witness and observe it.
over time you will develop a deeply personal relationship with it.
Don't ever be in a hurry with it. Don't be in a rush for the elusive breakthrough everyone talks about.
It will happen to you in good time and will be better if you have some experience with it already.
use mullein leaf.

be strong and stay grounded
peace
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
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#7 Posted : 9/15/2014 5:51:02 PM

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You guys are amazing! Thank you so much for your time, and helpful advices.
I won't rush it, i'll wait till i feel ready for it, and will start with a very small dose ..just to get a bit familiar with the sensation.. that is your advise for a first time dose: 10 - 15 - 20 mg?

Namaste :-)
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#8 Posted : 9/15/2014 6:29:08 PM

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Looks just fine. Theres no words that can prepare you so better I say nothing. 20 mg is good starting dose. I don't like misfires. Its very disappointing for me so I always dose high. Good luck with your trip and report back Smile
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Purges
#9 Posted : 9/15/2014 8:14:55 PM

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That spice looks great! Can't say what you will experience, but if you are emotional and carry it around with you, you may find that you experience a cathartic outpouring. It can be tremendously healing and feels great afterwards. Just be sensible with dosage as it can be unbelievably overwhelming.

It may be worth noting that 20mg if vaporised correctly and taken in one breath can produce a breakthrough experience. If smoked in a few more leisurely tokes, I think that might be a more gentle introduction. Depends what op is looking for really. I highly recommend infusing that into some leaf for easier smoking.

What do you plan on smoking it with?
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#10 Posted : 9/15/2014 9:02:04 PM

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I started with 15mg, but couldn't hold a lot in my lungs so it was divided in tree attempts in about an hour times (3 hits, trip, pause, 3 hits, trip, pause, 3 hits, trip). No breakthroughs, but you can feel its strength already on 5-7mg. Loading up with 10mg would ensure you don't accidentally take too much (unless you're confident you're a real clumsy smoker like me Pleased). Of couse, it differs per person.
 
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#11 Posted : 9/16/2014 12:19:18 AM

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Don't worry, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!

As far as your spice looks, it looks like you got some black fluid mixed with your solvent. That black fluid (I'm assuming) has NaOH in it. That may not be the case and it could be perfectly fine to smoke.

I would second the notion of trying 15mg. You should definitely feel 15mg. After that feel free to experiment with larger amounts.

To help with my travels I listen to music with good headphones. (Built in subwoofers certainly add to the experience.)

Shpongle - Divine Moments of truth ; This one is a great song to get your feet wet. I've noticed people see alot more geometry, and plenty of dancing.

I favor "The heart of it all" by Chimaira. It's very serene and pulls you deeper into hyperspace. The transition between melodies is seamless
I have had the best travels of my life with this tune. Always 10+ minutes in deep hyperspace!

I sometimes experience pre-flight anxiety prior to a trancending interdimensional exploration, so I'll vape a small bit an hour before I vape 40-50mg. There is always one consistant factor to my DMT travels. And that is I come back to earth feeling the best I ever have, completely in awe, with every cell in my body dancing with joy.

Stay safe, and happy travels!

 
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#12 Posted : 9/16/2014 7:36:23 AM

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1ce wrote:
Don't worry, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!

Hey, E*a. Don't upload your photo as avatar, don't tell people your real name, where you're from and where you live. Don't even upload a pic of someone else. This is unsafe. Sorry, we did not mean to mini mod or be rude.Stop Peace.
 
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#13 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:06:04 AM

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Intezam wrote:
1ce wrote:
Don't worry, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!

Hey, E*a. Don't upload your photo as avatar, don't tell people your real name, where you're from and where you live. Don't even upload a pic of someone else. This is unsafe. Sorry, we did not mean to mini mod or be rude.Stop Peace.


I'll take note of this, and do so.. I've changed my pic already. Thank you for telling me this... I'll be more careful from now on. :-)


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Intezam wrote:
1ce wrote:
Don't worry, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!

Hey, E*a. Don't upload your photo as avatar, don't tell people your real name, where you're from and where you live. Don't even upload a pic of someone else. This is unsafe. Sorry, we did not mean to mini mod or be rude.Stop Peace.


Dude chill right out. Take a joke when you see it xD.

Government man helping people on a drug making forum. Really now? Tsk tsk.
 
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#15 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:13:42 AM

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We are the Government! :-) The DMT Government :-)

Peace & Love & Many thanks to all of you friends for your time and help!
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#16 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:15:19 AM

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Purges wrote:
That spice looks great! Can't say what you will experience, but if you are emotional and carry it around with you, you may find that you experience a cathartic outpouring. It can be tremendously healing and feels great afterwards. Just be sensible with dosage as it can be unbelievably overwhelming.

It may be worth noting that 20mg if vaporised correctly and taken in one breath can produce a breakthrough experience. If smoked in a few more leisurely tokes, I think that might be a more gentle introduction. Depends what op is looking for really. I highly recommend infusing that into some leaf for easier smoking.

What do you plan on smoking it with?


I plan to smoke with a bong, as i don't have a vapor genie or a glass pipe. Do you this is OK smoking from a bong, with the sandwich method? ash - dmt -ash ?
Namaste
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#17 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:19:50 AM

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Purges wrote:
That spice looks great!


I'm so happy to hear that juhuuu!!Thank you!!!
As is was my first extraction, i wasn't sure if the result is good enough, because there were actually no crystals formed, or if they were, they were very small. I also have a little bit of a white spice, was on the one side of the Pyrex dish and i put it in a separate jar... maybe i'll use the white one for my first smoke. :-)
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#18 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:41:19 AM

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In my experience the colour makes little difference. Some of the most potent magic I have had the pleasure of partaking in has been bright yellow. If smoking in a bong you have a couple of options. You can sandwich. You can make enhanced leaf. You can load a bowl of something inert like mullein or mint and gently melting the crystal into the herb with a small amount of heat and gentle inhalation. The most important thing is to be gentle with the heat. Too much will denature it.

Smoking DMT is an art in it's self, you will almost certainly have to practice a bunch before getting it down.

If you can manage a spice extraction, I highly recommend extracting some Harmalas and making changa or dosing before the spice. They facilitate a longer, smoother journey.
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#19 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:48:25 AM

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Purges wrote:
In my experience the color makes little difference

Good to know! Thank you Purges.
...I've read from couple of people on the forum that white spice is better/much cleaner and it makes difference on the trip by the way it tastes.. Is it true that if it tastes so bad, this can give you a bad trip already?
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#20 Posted : 9/16/2014 8:54:39 AM

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D'oh pressed 'post' by accident! There's more info in my last post now! I think that may be more of an issue with acacia spice, but I have only ever used mhrb, so can't compare. As long as you performed the extraction correctly, there is no need to worry too much. Recrystalising can be fun, and sparkly crystals are nice, but I haven't found any real difference.
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