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Cypheriax
#1 Posted : 8/8/2014 2:55:41 AM

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On this site there is a lot of talk about the ego.

Ego death. Alterations to one's ego. The absence of an ego after a particularly high dose.

Has anyone ever had any experience with their id on DMT? The death of primal urges and base instinct to any degree?
 

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#2 Posted : 8/8/2014 3:09:04 AM

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Hell yes... and I like your style. Smile

People talk so much about ego this and ego that, but seldomly use this wordd 'id' to describe what's left over.

At the centre of a peak experience when all is presence and awareness where language does not exist. All that's left is the id. It can be so beautiful, but also world shattering.

To reflect the scientific nature of this forum I wish that word was used more, because I think a lot of people are talking about it.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/8/2014 5:01:42 AM

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I approve of this. Very important for people like us to be able to know the differences between the id and ego and understand them.
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#4 Posted : 8/8/2014 5:47:01 AM

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The way we use the term ego around here is a little different from the traditional Freudian definition of ego in the Id/Ego/Superego complex as it's generally understood.

In our usage we tend to refer to ego as the sense of self, the thinker, the I-dentity.

In the traditional Freudian context, ego is not really this stable, self-reflecting entity so much as a kind of process that attempts to balance desire (Id) against morality (Superego).

Both the id and superego would fall into what Jung terms the personal unconscious. Whereas, I would contend that the way the tryptamine spaces manifest themselves seems much more like tapping into the collective unconscious. Of course, this is just my own speculation based on my personal experiences and others may find their experiences manifest scenarios and imagery that are easier to trace back to specific memories, thoughts, ideas and events.

Or perhaps, and more likely, it's some kind of complex interplay of both the personal and the collective with personally meaningful symbolism manifesting alongside universal archetypes.

Interesting topic of conversation, thanks for bringing it up! Thumbs up

I look forward to hearing other peoples thoughts on this idea.
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