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Is science spiritual? Is the belief in scientific methodology a modern day sacred ritual? The pursuit of knowledge and the development of better eyes and pokey stikcks a human awakening , making the unseen seen. Ultimately are we doomed as a race or will the pursuit of knowledge be our saving?
The pursuit of knowledge and the development of better eyes and pokey stikcks a human awakening , making the unseen seen. Ultimately are we doomed as a race or will the pursuit of knowledge be our saving?
Richard Feynman " We are not to tell nature what she’s gotta be. ... She's always got better imagination than we have."
" A very great deal more truth can become known than can be proven."
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IMO, science is apart of our own nature as organisms evolving to deeper, more expandable realms of being, thinking and doing. The fundamental 'stuff' we know that exists, exists within many other areas of life-connectedness. So yes, science is apart of life, making science a spiritual force. Just like technology. If it helps us understand the core dynamics of life, or to aid in the restoration of a human being, through realization and discovery, it certainly can be called a spiritual aspect. Especially if it helps one to grasp the very nature of what they are learning, or even to help someone come to their own ideas and interests. Science is only one aspect, though. It all comes together with other aspects of life and of our own creations. -- 'What's going to happen?' 'Something wonderful.'
Skip the manual, now, where's the master switch?
We are interstellar stardust, the re-dox co-factors of existence. Serve the sacred laws of the universe before your time comes to an end. Oh yes, you shall be rewarded.
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not any more or less then anything else. Long live the unwoke.
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The intersection between science and spirituality depends largely on what facet of each you look at. For the spirituality side some people single out faith, science has that (who in their right mind would re-prove atomic theory and re-measure atomic masses before calculating a molecular weight for a chemistry experiment? They just have reasoned faith that the reference books are right), some people require spirituality have blind mindless faith... at times science has that too  Other times people require ethics of spirituality. Psychologists insist that their field is a science (much to the shock and dismay of physicists). Not to mention the ethical considerations that scientists take account of before performing an experiment, so there is some precedent for the inclusion of ethics as a scientific issue. The scientific method itself was not invented by scientists. In the west it was developed by philosophers- some overtly spiritual and some not. In the east it was developed by religious leaders, just read the Kalama Sutta for a 2600 year old foundational buddhist application of the scientific method to religion. For the last 26 centuries monks have chanted that sutta in pali and contemplated its insights after coming out of mind shattering meditative absorptions (read up on the jhanas). Science really comes down to reason, and reason is a requisite part of spirituality even in those more wacked out examples. The common ground of reason allows for an easy intersection, if both sides are held lightly.
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Auxin wrote:Psychologists insist that their field is a science in much the same way crazy people might insist they are napoleon My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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Not quite as spiritual as math, imho "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…” Maybe as we peer into our universe, we peer into ourselves? From that POV, hell yeah it's spiritual.
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:Not quite as spiritual as math, imho How so within elaboration? I can see where you are coming from. Math is extremely ancient while science(though ancient) has similarities and different outcomes of what it means to be alive. Quote:“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…” Maybe as we peer into our universe, we peer into ourselves? From that POV, hell yeah it's spiritual.Cool Beyond agreed. -- 'What's going to happen?' 'Something wonderful.'
Skip the manual, now, where's the master switch?
We are interstellar stardust, the re-dox co-factors of existence. Serve the sacred laws of the universe before your time comes to an end. Oh yes, you shall be rewarded.
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