This could also be titled Psychedelics vs. Dope.

I just wanted to introduce the idea that perhaps these drugs have actually become the living archetypes of good and evil, which appear to be at war on the face of the earth and in the hearts of men.

So in my vision, Ayahuasca represents pure, ineffable divinity and the restoration of nature. Other psychedelics like Mushrooms, LSD, and Peyote would be like archangels.
There are planets of every description and these drugs love to show them to humans.

Methamphetamine and Alcohol represent the devil as dual nature (uppers & downers - pleasure & pain), and the destruction of nature.
I believe that meth and alcohol are the two most destructive drugs on the planet, therefore in this model they would have dominion over all stimulants and depressants. Cocaine and Morphine would be the chief demons.
These are the drugs that will keep you in the matrix; in the cycle of reincarnation. Although they can be instrumental in one's liberation in certain circumstances.

I think drugs like marijuana, mdma, and ketamine would lie somewhere in the gray area between psychedelics and dope.

Even if one has never consumed any drugs (what is a drug?), your life is most definitely influenced in many ways, directly and indirectly, by people who have.

Psychedelics and dope are two expressions which emanate from the same invisible source and in this age are carrying the bulk of the information for what manifests in the visible plane. Information that instantly becomes part of everyone.

This whole idea here can't be put into words without a certain amount of categorizing and contradiction. It's a "This is yin except for when it's yang" kind of thing.

This is what happens when you try to use words to lead one into that wonderful new description of the world that blossoms when one is able to still the mind; to stop the internal dialogue which hides the truth in plain sight.

When you no longer have to compare everything and make distinctions. They are like lines on notebook paper; very useful when you're learning to write, but after a while you don't need them anymore.

Talking to yourself, the cosmos is thwarting your every effort to be happy. With a still mind, there are endless opportunities to grow awareness.

What is the mind but a dangerous tool? A wild pegasus to be tamed or a prison for the soul.

As one approaches spiritual knowledge, paradox is inevitable. Knowing that you don't know. It doesn't make sense when you try to put it into formal language. Dancing is meditation and DMT is coffee and jaguars are baskets. How's that for reason?

I've come to believe that psychedelics and dope (good and evil) only appear to be at war and are actually working together through humanity to fulfill a divine plan beyond human comprehension.
All drugs actually do the same thing; carry information. You will do the ones that tell you what you need to know. We get really high in the information age. Take Care and Give Fun everybody.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....

Yea I can get with that...

but, for clarity, by dope you mean heroin, yes?

I really enjoyed they poetic way you conveyed the idea you are expressing. Your thought process reminds me of Buddhist (specifically zen) ideas and theories. There are a thousand myriad things that we take to represent good and evil, but at the end of the day, they just are.

I would have to agree with your conjecture that amphetamines, alcohol, cocaine, and heroin bring out more of the mind-chatter (as I call it) that keeps us occupied in endless thought-loops that keep us from experiencing the present moment.

I also agree that marijuana and MDMA can be considered gray area. For some people in certain situations they can be a good first step to "waking up", but they also can lead to the aforementioned thought-loops with sustained usage over a prolonged period of time.

Aya has shown me that at the end of everything there is nothing but infinite love and compassion.

In my personal experience prescription amphetamines and alcohol have lead me down a dark path of perpetual over-sexualizing everything about life. Luckily I have cut both out of my life, and am lucky enough to have met a partner to help me through what seems to be an eternal amphetamine withdrawal.

Marijuana used to help me with my depression, and without it I would have never been able to get of the amph, but at this point I find that I was just using it to escape "reality" and fog my mirror of a mind with my wanting to be high at every moment of every day.

Now I am on a journey to try to "fix" myself, and the first step was getting into some trouble with the law (I can't and won't go into details about that), and now I have to get drug tested almost weekly. Now I can only use entheogens, and I feel like it is the universe trying to set me on the right path to fixing myself. My parents and wife both believe that I am a very compassionate person with the potential to do anything, and with that I want to be a doctor to help people get off of prescription "medicine" and show them that plant based medicines like passion flower and wild dagga can be used in place of "evil" drugs like xanax, ambien, and prozac.

The archetypes of theological origin don't do much for me personally, but they do seem to help me when I talk to people who are more comfortable that that sort of symbology. I've taken so much LSD that the images of "demons" don't really scare me, but I haven't been able to make much of angel symbology. This makes it rather difficult to take anything new age seriously to me.

That's an interesting idea, and one I think a lot of people on here will share. Obviously the majority of mainstream society will disagree with alcohol being negative and psychs being positive, although they are the ones missing out!

Adjhart
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:00:20 PM

"but, for clarity, by dope you mean heroin, yes?"

Yes, I cited Morphine as one of the devil's (or dope's) chief demons, whose primary mission is to move your seat of consciousness from your heart to your brain. More information on that idea can be found in this book: The Secret Teachings of Plants

isaaczibre
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2014 1:00:25 AM

"In my personal experience prescription amphetamines and alcohol have lead me down a dark path of perpetual over-sexualizing everything about life. Luckily I have cut both out of my life, and am lucky enough to have met a partner to help me through what seems to be an eternal amphetamine withdrawal."

Yes, there's something about those drugs that limit one's perception of sex energy (which is all there really is) to the individual expressions thereof, as opposed to sexual acts and exchanges in a broader sense (like war, music concerts, building of monuments, etc.) that don't necessarily involve boners and orgasms.
I can relate to the withdrawal feeling like a permanent fixture but in my experience of late, it comes in waves. I think this is due in part to the persistent cultivation of gratitude and optimism. You know good energy is healing and it takes practice. It may not regenerate a lost finger, but it sure can reverse a lot of the damage from hard drugs.
As for the demonic imagery on LSD not frightening you, that is an indicator that you reached a significant degree of detachment, which is necessary to see what is really going on instead of just reacting to it..
And the various archetypes for good and evil (which can be very abstract) are like keys that unlock emotions and facilitate communication. Basically, if you find the key for that person, he/she will listen deeply and respond earnestly.
Thank you.