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So has there been a confirmed solvent replacement??? Options
 
lowjackal
#1 Posted : 2/18/2014 11:49:39 PM

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So has there been a confirmed solvent replacement yet for the members who happen to reside in California? Naptha,Xylene,MEK,ect...All gone for us in CA.
I read where some of the answers were pointing CA solvent seekers to use Heptane, but is there any other solvents that are a tad cheaper and also OTC to say process several lbs. of bark or kilo's?
I mean if heptane will work and it's gonna be the only viable solvent thats being substituted for naptha, then how many of the pint sized heptane cans are needed for processing a kilo of bark?
Maybe the people I seen doing it with naptha were using excess solvent as a gallon was used for a kilo. Alot of reducing of the naptha was necessary so maybe using 2 or 3 pints of heptane will cut back on the dangerous reducing stage prior to freeze precipitating the good.

I'm sure alt solvent questions have been asked, so if you dont have any newer news about that can you just focus on the amount needed for the amount to be processed mentioned above.

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#2 Posted : 2/19/2014 1:05:19 AM

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Have you tried doing a dry tek so you can use IPA or Acetone? I dont know of the outlaws on the solvents in CA. What do they use to thin the paint in CA?
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#3 Posted : 2/19/2014 1:40:00 AM

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sunflower oil works fine.
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lowjackal
#4 Posted : 2/19/2014 2:41:23 AM

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They use this paint thinner that has acetone,xylene,naptha & ehtyl acetate. You'd think that since they banned the two solvents i mentioned before that they wouldnt be using these at all anymore. But apparently it's only pure forms of the naptha and xylene.

And sunflower oil for the non-polar solvent in the STB extraction???

Forgive me if I'm gonna need some more info on how this is possible. But hell, I'm keeping an open mind just not seeing it working.
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#5 Posted : 2/19/2014 2:44:19 AM

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You can't find Ronsonol lighter fluid? Also, naptha can be found in some stove fuels in CA still. Check a place like REI.
 
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#6 Posted : 2/19/2014 2:45:24 AM

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d-limonene??
 
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#7 Posted : 2/19/2014 3:38:49 AM

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Why are attempting to extract from "several lbs or kilos"?

Talk of large scale extractions is prohibited here. I suggest you take a look at the attitude page.

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lowjackal
#8 Posted : 2/19/2014 3:19:16 PM

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Oops! my bad! I was only asking for informational purposes. Never did I even ask for SWIM like most people who are intending on doing what they're talking about do.

so sunflower oil is d-limonene?
I have never even read up on anything other than the STB. So i'm off to do dat now.
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Du57mi73
#9 Posted : 2/19/2014 3:27:07 PM

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d-limonene and sunflower oil are different things. Look them up and look up how to use them. There is plenty of available threads and teks on how to use them as solvents.
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#10 Posted : 2/19/2014 5:14:36 PM

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The cost of heptane is pretty irrelevant since you can reuse it.

If you were doing a larger extraction for whatever reason and you found it was getting saturated, you could just freeze precip, then dump off the heptane and use it to keep pulling. It would be a bit of a time inconvenience, but its not like a person can use that much DMT in such a short time anyways.

 
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#11 Posted : 2/19/2014 7:25:20 PM

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Heptane and hexane work every bit as well as VM&P naphtha. Heptane is sold over-the-counter as Bestine rubber cement remover for about the same price as VM&P: about $10 for a quart. If you're looking for a solvent that will perform pretty much the same as naphtha, i.e. pulling the same compounds from basic solution and being able to freeze-precipitate, heptane or hexane would probably be your best bet. I'm sure there are other aliphatic hydrocarbons that would work, but I only have experience with heptane, hexane, and VM&P naphtha.
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