Just last week I had my first experiences with DMT in the form of an ayahuasca analogue (chaliponga and syrian rue). These were my first psychedelic experiences in almost 8 years. I ground 10 grams of rue and 10 grams of chaliponga and simmered them three times for approximately 30 minutes each, beginning with 500ml and adding 500ml twice more. I also added a tablespoon of vinegar to each 500ml addition. I reduced the batch to 400ml after filtering/decanting out as much sediment as possible. I will write a more detailed report later.
First Experience:
This was primarily to become accustomed to the effects of the rue. I took 80ml (2 grams of rue and 2 grams of chaliponga), and definitely felt the effects of the rue, but not really anything 'trippy'. I felt physically disoriented.
Second Experience:
Reduced a tea with 4 grams of rue and 4 grams of chaliponga to 120ml and consumed it at 11pm. 4 grams of rue produced an EXTREMELY heavy body load, and I could hardly move for several hours. 45 minutes after finishing the tea I began to feel mild psychedelic effects, with mild depth distortions, and mild closed eye visuals akin to a low mushroom dose. I believe the DMT had taken effect, but it was certainly not an overwhelming experience. Unlike with mushrooms or LSD, it felt as if 'I' was completely intact, and my perceptions were just being heavily distorted (mild geometric CEVs). I didn't purge, and felt the rue effects until approximately 8am the next day.
Third Experience:
The remaining 2g rue/2g chaliponga tea, along with another tea brewed with 5 grams of chaliponga and .5g of rue. I drank the 2g rue/2g chaliponga tea at 9:25pm, and the 5g chali/.5g rue tea 10 minutes later. I again felt an heavy body load as I lay in the dark (though much less than the previous night though), and had an especially heavy feeling in my stomach/intestines, almost like a 'blockage' of some sort. After entering a strange, mild head space for 1.5 hours, I drank a cup of water thinking it might induce a purge. Nothing, and I thought I had botched the recipe somehow, so I got up off my mat turned, turned the lights on, and decided to go upstairs to go to sleep. Before ascending the stairs, I sat down in my chair and for some reason googled "ayahuasca sucks" to see what would come up. Please understand that I undertook my journeys very respectfully, eating well, fasting for several days, and I'm not sure why I googled that phrase. I guess I was disappointed and wanted to see if others had felt the same way. I read the following article:
http://lafamiliamedicina...e-effects-of-ayahuasca/
The article ends with this paragraph:
"It is important that one keeps in mind the reasons they are drinking ayahausca- cleaning, healing, and learning. If one is having a difficult time getting mariado (feeling the effects), just relax. The medicine is working. She knows what you need. Trust her and keep drinking."
IMMEDIATELY after finishing that paragraph, I placed my phone down and was incapacitated for the next 2.5 to 3 hours. 'I' was fully intact, unlike the effects of mushrooms and LSD, but I was so floored by what I was experiencing I could not move from my chair. I had very few visual effects. My visions were primarily mental, coming in the form of messages about the state of the world, and being overwhelmed by the love/wisdom/foresight of God (think Abrahamic God). I prayed. Alot.
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I'll refrain from writing more about my experience for now. I'm just wondering if any other first time ayahuasca (or ayahuasca analogue users) with previous psychedelic experience were struck but the lack of ego dissolution in comparison to large mushroom or LSD doses? On this analogue I was aware of the interconnectedness of all things (not a particularly novel thought...), but 'I' was fully intact, although overcome by the intensity of the experience. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Has anyone else been surprised by the juxtaposition of the ayahuasca analogue experience against psilocybin or LSD? I was expecting a bit more ego dissolution, instead it just felt as if something completely 'other' flooded and overwhelmed my agency and capacity for movement.
Also, if anyone has any links to good threads on nausea reduction for rue/caapi in brews please send them my way.