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Cazman043
#1 Posted : 12/23/2013 8:48:28 PM

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Hi guys, i am here today to ask this question, can a relationship work once one has surfaced into an ego death state?

Here's some background info on why i am asking this question, many of the religions such as christianity, buddhism, hinduism, talk about things such as enlightenment or the holy spirit. It seems to be a very similar correlation to what a psychonaut would refer too as an ego death. In these religions, we are told not to have sexual relationships due to whichever reasons they provide, such as buddhism suggesting it leads to attachment which then leads to suffering (i am no expert on this topic).

I wonder whether or not another reason behind this, is the fact you see everyone as one, once you enter an ego death state. Would that not mean, a relationship between another being would feel more asexual than hetrosexual? Would you still be attracted to the opposite sex or would you just see them, like you see everyone else, being a part of you? This is making the assumption that once in an ego death state, you do see everyone as being at one with yourself.

I am currently in a relationship, i love my girlfriend, recognise there are chances of things not working out forever, in a logical sense, but at the same time, allow myself to be blinded by love to ignore the doubts that logical reasons can provide. We have had our moments of beauty, as well as moments of pain and doubt, but we always get through tragedies as a team and communicate very well and on a deep level of understanding. However, doubts still rise, and i do have the question of whether me taking this powerful molecule into a breakthrough state, could dramatically alter my relationship, and if so for the better or worse? I understand i must figure these things out on my own, but i do believe receiving the perspective of others allows me too avoid being stuck at one side of the box, incapable of seeing it from other directions.

Thank you for reading if you got this far, i hope you have a new light to shine upon my idea's, have a nice day all Smile

 

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#2 Posted : 12/29/2013 2:31:59 AM

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One of the main reasons that religions encourage celibacy is the correlation that your sexual energy has with your bioenergy. Depending on how deep you go into the whole chakra concept, there is pretty good middle ground in equating the energy points of the chakra and meridian system to certain nervous and endocrine points throughout the body; most notably the seven major chakras that correspond to the seven major glands. Mental and physical stimulus can cause changes within these systems.

To me enlightenment is only synonymous with awareness and perception.

Information/data -experience-> Knowledge -experience-> Wisdom -experience-> Awareness/Perception/Enlightenment

So the enlightenment of 'olde isn't really an unobtainable super event, it's a gradual process we all go through. Obtaining full enlightenment would be akin to being Christ-like or reaching Buddhahood. Ego death is a necessary function for you to put through the chain I listed above, but once you've gained perception/awareness/enlightenment OF the ego death—the act that the ego and your body is just a small piece of a grand whole—a "new you" forms, different yet.

So it's one thing to say that the experience may or may not affect your relationship. It's another thing entirely to say that the relationship changing is completely inherent to the experience. It all comes down to you.

Good luck with the relationship bit; communication and chemistry is key and only you will know when that starts to falter.

 
waitwhatwhere
#3 Posted : 12/29/2013 9:19:02 AM

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I'll just say 'yes' to answer your first question. The thing about an experience like ego death is that it's temporary. DMT isn't to turn you into the Buddha (at least not permanently). Basically, you get pulled back into the drama of life pretty immediately. Of course you remember intense insights, much of which slips away within the first 24 hours, and it can nag at you, causing the much discussed difficulties of integration of experience. But really, you didn't kill your ego dead forever, it's back in no time, like it or not.

That said, these intense experiences can stress any relationship, depending on how things play out. Of course it all depends on the context of your relationship. But problems can arise if your partner chooses not to share your experiences and becomes weirded out by your chattering about them. Again, it all depends on what kind of relationship you start with.

And hey, who said a feeling of oneness with everything precluded sexual interest?
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#4 Posted : 12/29/2013 1:34:09 PM

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As waitwhatwhere indicated, "ego death" is quite the transitory state. It would affect a relationship during it only to the extent that you would have no relation with any external object be it a pencil or your girlfriend...but the ego is quite quick to reassert itself, even in its most obliterated of states, and that's a good thing too or else we'd all become essentially functionless in the physical world.
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Cazman043
#5 Posted : 12/29/2013 9:56:37 PM

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Thank you all for your replies, it was great to hear the perspective of others, from much more knowledgable and experienced people, i appreciate the time you took to help guide me. Again, thank you!
 
 
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