Hi all new to this forum . Yesterday I was rushed to hospital in critical condition at 10am . The night before I stupidly drank 3 bottles of red wine then i decided why not take a combination of nbomes. I took two 1200 mcg blotters of 25i blotters which is pretty stupid to start with . After a few hours I took an nbome 25c 800 mcg . All together thats a way to high a dose of nbomes being a dangerous research chemical thats killed several people here in Australia .

Stupid idiot I am I then took 7 grams to 10 grams of dried psilocybin i have stored in the freezer. I have been doing mushroom for years and always pick a few pounds every year so i can last all year round . I always treat these with respect and have never done more than 4 grams as that is more than enough for an intense trip. The alcohol in my system made me reckless and made me want to trip harder than ever .

Mission accomplished . I do dmt when i feel the need to ask myself questions and explore other worlds and what happened to me on this combination was just like dmt . Trees turned cube like and the leaves where glowing colourful cubes it was so beautiful, unlike any mushroom or nbome trip Ive ever experienced . I then started losing it. I felt like I channelled demonic forces and was under spiritual attack ofcourse this was just a really bad trip. As the night wore on I noticed my legs started growing weak and my knees would buckle on me. This has happened before on mushroom and alcohol combinations but then my neck lost all strength and my head was flopping around .

Now im a little worried. I thought a shower would help. My visions blurry but the trips worn off. I collapse on the floor and drag myself into the shower . I cant breathe , my lungs are dead i cant get them to work. I manage a shallow breath and cry out. My girlfriend walks in and is shocked , im turning blue and convulsing involuntarily flopping around on the tiles . I point to my mouth with with my hand and my girlfriend starts mouth to mouth. Its not enough . She pins my nose and blows asa hard as she can and my lungs fill up but its not enough. I start bleeding from my mouth Shes crying and breathing for me no breaks just constant deep breaths one after the other .

Im fucking dying i feel regrets im dying . Loss of consciousness she pumps my chest. She cant call an ambulance cos i cant breathe and need her every breath. Half an hour of hell goes by and i feel strength return to me . I crawl to the jeep and am rushed to hospital where useless doctors have no idea and dont even take me seriously. I need to know what did this. Was it nbomes was it mushrooms or the combination. Im 34yrs old 6'1 and 115 kg . What did this ? I dont want to write off mushrooms and i think nbomes ok in single doses not triple. Either way im only gonna do lsd, dmt and weed from now on. If anyone has answers

From the sound of it you got piss-drunk, took six times as much psychedelic material as you could handle, and then thoroughly freaked out your girlfriend and inconvenienced some doctors.
Since the doctors were confused and 'useless' (didnt need to do much) that means you probably werent really stroking out or hemorrhaging. The turning blue was likely a combo of the vasoconstriction and freaking out too much to breathe properly. For the blood, you probably bit yourself. For the lesson on where you fucked up most I'd say the alcohol- since that was the first fuck up that enabled the others. Its much too easy to do stupid shit on alcohol.
Be much more careful and stay off the booze.

You do have my genuine sympathy for such a bad experience.

if the doctors couldn't do anything to treat the symptoms, I'd say they were pretty useless.
probably too worried about getting hit with malpractice 'suits

Ahem,

Why? Why would you do this?

You say you respect mushrooms, but I beg to differ.

I respect my car, and never once when I was drunk did I feel reckless enough to put it through its paces in such a state. I truly respect my car, and that transcends whatever state I find myself in. So too would be your mentality if you really respected these substances.

I really don't feel like you are doing anyone a service with this post to protect anyone, and I really am left questioning your intentions by your posting this.

I am sorry if you just felt dumb one day, and really did this. Thank you for your honesty in that case, but damn. The only thing anyone can really take away from this is, "don't be stupid."

Shit that sounds terrifying I hope youre feeling better now and no doubt have learnt your lesson.
A warning for anyone not to mix research chems with anything and to be very careful with them in general especially when it comes to dosage.

To answer your questions, it was more than likely the ridiculously massive dose of NBOMe's and maybe the alcohol played a role.

To start with, you drank three bottles of wine? I'm not going to tell you what to do, but if I were you I would address that issue first. Three bottles of wine is not a healthy, normal, or safe dose. A low-risk drinker or anyone who didn't have a massive tolerance to alcohol would start vomiting or pass out long before they could finish the third bottle. I think it might be good for you to do some self- reflection regarding your alcohol consumption. Especially after getting so drunk that you thought it would be safe, perhaps even a good idea to recklessly ingest an irresponsibly massive dose of dangerous "research chemicals", nearly becoming a statistic. This kind of behavior is exactly what fuels the prohibition supporters' arguments, and frankly makes the psychedelic community look really bad to eyes the naive and uninformed.

If I were you, I would take some time to refrain from all psychoactive substances and determine whether your actions and intentions are helping or hindering your ability to live a happy, fulfilling life. LSD, cannabis, and dimethyltryptamine will still be there when and if you decide to return to them.

For the record, mushrooms are remarkably nontoxic to humans. But that doesn't necessarily mean it is a safe or smart idea to mix them with toxic phenethylamines or neurotoxins such as ethanol.

The question is, can anyone here learn anything from your story that simple common sense hadn't already made obvious? I suppose we can leave it up for the time being as another case study in how bad we can make things for ourselves.

You're here at this forum so perhaps you did get something positive from this- maybe more of a sense of caution or of respect for these substances. That being the case, welcome. I hope you never need another experience like that. My simple diagnosis would be that it was excess in general, rather than any substance combination in particular, which was the problem. If you are already prone to drinking three bottles of wine on your own to begin with, you're already pretty deep in excess territory. This has to do with you as an individual. The substances themselves are not the culprit.

That said, why mess around with dodgy RCs when you have good shrooms on hand?

Take a nice long break. Do healthy stuff. Look for the positive side of the whole ugly episode. And don't be afraid to be suitably embarrassed about the whole thing.

In reply to Auxim . I can assure you this wasn't a freak out, I'm not some inexperienced teenager trying new things, I've done psychedelics all my life . When your head flops around and your knees give way its not a psychosomatic response. I don't get freaked out. In fact it was enjoyable at first. I do mushrooms twice a month and nbome weekly but never combined. My lungs didn't work . You cant voluntarily stop your lungs working . Try holding your breath and the body will always refuse you and inhale. This was total shut down . all the effects point to nbome overdose.

I could not breathe and I felt myself going. My girlfriend told me my lips went blue and my eyes rolled back in my head and I was twitching even my skin went blue-ish . As for the doctors here in Australia, they don't know anything about research chemicals and since I was conscious and responsive there is nothing they could do except monitor me closely so they just put me on a drip and ran tests . I would have definitely died without my girlfriends help. Either way I'm never doing nbomes again and I'm gonna throw out the 3000 tabs I have left.
I do have a high tolerance for alcohol and I'm not a small guy so it takes a bit to get me drunk. I believe its the combination of all 3 . I have had mushrooms make me semi paralysed before and I have seen other threads on here saying the same thing. Anyway I'm not usually irresponsible I know I'm an idiot for what I did. People make mistakes when drunk.

I put this post up so that anyone thinking of combining mushrooms and nbomes may think twice and anyone thinking of taking more than a couple of blotters will know these things aren't safe. people have died from as little as 2 tabs of 25i. So if this post saves one life or prevents a hospitalization then it serves one hell of a good purpose. Anyway back to lsd, weed and dmt for me.

Reading your post made me think otherwise..

Reckless. Just reckless.

Glad you're ok.

Glad to hear it, and passing this potential death sentence onto others for a profit is a definite no-no.
Every week, here in the UK, there are reports of kids dying on RC's and it's Not a nice way to go.
Just because they are 'legal' does not mean they are Not Dangerous...quite the opposite.

Fancy, colourful packaging and 'cutesy' names are just enticing kids into a world of untested and unregulated mahem...it's just plain wrong.

You dodged a bullet and if you value your life and want to make it to a greater age, take heed of this wake up call and ease up.


Yup.

NBOMe can cause HUGE amounts of hypertension alone, at least in my experience.
I know this from all the fake LSD that has been flooding the market *grrr*
This in combination with mushrooms is likely the problem.
Did you have absolutely no idea what you are doing when you combined this deadly mix?
Alcohol makes me reckless, but not to the point of trying to kill myself intentionally.
My advice, either learn what you are doing, what is safe etc.
If you can not do this, do not take drugs.
Combining 3 things in very high dosages, all of which raise blood pressure and heart rate and strain of the heart is foolish.
Having said all this, glad you are okay.
MODERATOR: BUYING ADVICE REMOVED, DON'T DO THIS AGAIN

Thanks everyone for your replies. I read them all and thanks to those who are glad I'm not dead. I didn't realise theres so many rules about posting on here . I'll try be more careful mr moderator.

We had a young kid patient in our medical ICU recently who took DOI orally… didn't wait for its effects to settle in, and impatiently intravenously injected it first into one arm, and then into another (why or why)?

Severe vasoconstriction ensued, he became pulseless in both arms, was hallucinating at this point and didn't make it to the hospital but for several very painful and psychotic hours later whereupon all his distal tissues necroses and he is rushed to the OR, is now minus two arms.

He seemed like an otherwise intelligent individual. How can one not do their research on situations like this and the OP's? I almost outed myself at work as a psychedelics user to this poor kid… its painful to see people so grotesquely misuse these substances and suffer immense consequences.

To the OP, sir you may well benefit from this cautionary tale.

God not NBOME's again...

These things really are poison. I gave them a shot, and the vascoconstriction is ridiculous. Consider the safety margin: an active dose is 250-1200 ug (approximately), but there are confirmed fatal overdoses that have occurred with doses as low as 3.5mg. If you've got a "hot spot" in your blotter, you could die. AVOID NBOMEs.

It's crazy I'm done with nbomes and all RCs . I've heard that DOM aka STP is reasonably safe but I'll be throwing that out too. I'm taking no risks anymore Thanks for your posts

If you only ever used the tried and true "conventional" psychedelics, I assure you that you'll never run out of depths to explore.

That's some serious overkill with the alcohol and mixing. I dont know if going back to lsd, weed, and dmt is even a good idea. If that happened to me, I would be reconsidering my relationship with all substances. Maybe a break is in order?

Good for you for having the strength to admit you made a poor decision in retrospect and doing it in such a public way in hopes of helping others. With that said, I think part of being respectful of the power of these substances is showing restraint and taking responsibility for your own actions/decisions.

Like Guyomech, I am being sensitive about the distinction between saying something like "the alcohol made me do something stupid" (this gives alcohol way too much agency) compared to "i did something stupid and alcohol contributed to it" (recognizes that you are the agent and that alcohol only made a poor decision even worse). Maybe it is a subtle shift in thought and word but it makes a world of difference.

This might be hard to hear and contrary to the attitude policy but sometimes love is tough! Be well and take care of yourself!

Moderation & Safety!

25i is here to stay, by far the most used psychedelic this year. EDM shows are just swimming in it and there aren't kids turning blue everywhere. Ideally it wouldn't be in liquid or powder form and properly dosed, but this is the wild west & there have been casualties due to disregard for safety.

The combination of high amounts of booze, perhaps even red wine in particular, mushrooms & "groovy" were a recipe for a vasoconstriction disaster. The 25i has an affinity to the 5-ht receptors 150x that of psilocybin, this is very potent stuff. I do recall one time drinking a port wine before hand and getting a headache, perhaps a tyramine connection.

Yeah , maybe just weed and dmt for now. I'll cut out the booze too. I was using mushroom and nbome way too often. I know lsd is safe but for now it reminds me too much of nbome in its effects and appearance. I'm scared of it. Maybe in a year I'll go back to lsd. I think the mind has a limit as well as the body and my constant overuse of these strong psychedelics may also harm my psyche. I cant even use the bathroom I collapsed in, lucky I have 2 in my house . The irrational fear will be with me for a while but I will learn from it and never again will I push the boundaries to the limit. I got to concentrate on repairing years of abuse on my body, smoking, drinking, bad food etc thanks guys