SWIM was curios whether their were easily attainable substances/chemicals available, that weren't virulent to the human organism, with which to coax and Isolate the LSA's out of Morning glory seeds. SWIM tends to favor more benign and innocuous elements being introduced into it's vehicle when commencing Eagle Eye ball oscillations.

Scrupulous information, and neophytes alike. Your transmission of signals are revered.

Serpent Unfettered, Kaliedescopic sight, Death dog tunnel diggers dive.

Also, the conversion of LSA's to LSH's seams intriguing as well. If the informed would indulge me in a meticulous rendering of procedure, my patterns of insight will increase exponentially.

Hadronic Heirophant

Love lovliness lovers.

SWIM was intrigued to say the middlemost of the chemical tutelage and adeptness with which quite a few of SWIY's bolstered. If anyone had a non-virulent method of isolating LSA from morning glory that would be tremendous. Saw in another post relating to snuff's 69ron knew SWIH who put a certain dose of lsa into a cup, was this an isolated form of LSA or an organic source(Seeds)?? Again

Everyones whim's and imput would be beneficial and welcome, as well as novel or unorthodox ideas pertaining to this discussion.

Luminous, Cross drained ruby crux, Serpentine shine.

Forgive me brothers, for being closed minded....

But why the hell do some people try to make themselves look mentally unfit for the world at large?

Can a question not be asked without talking about death dog tunnel diggers?

Forgive me, Thanatanada, but I think insane posts like this give DMT users a bad name. Anyone reading this is going to be scared away.

We're trying to look like intelligent, sane, rational people.

Just my two cents. LSA extraction has nothing to do with serpent unfettered, cross drained ruby anything.

It's refreshing to see a question posed as a form of art work. I think it's cool.

It's not easy to extract LSA. It's very water soluble and very delicate. SWIM has done it, but has no easy to follow tech for it that he can post. At some point he'll write one up and post it.

You can extract it with a normal A/B tech, but use DCM as the non-polar solvent and do at least 10 defats with it and 5 extractions with it. Also don't subject the seeds to boiling water. Boil the seeds in acetone and then evaporate the acetone and dissolve the gunk in water. Then perform the A/B on that. For the freebase base stage, bring the pH to 9 and no higher. I recommend using sodium carbonate and NOT sodium hydroxide or any other strong base. You'll need to extract the freebase LSA with a solvent like DCM. I don't believe that naphtha will work because LSA is very water soluble. DCM works for sure because that's what SWIM used. When done, evaporate your DCM down a little, but not completely.

You'll need to do another A/B extraction to clean it up. Just repeat it on the results.

At that point evaporate away the DCM and you're left with freebase LSA and other alkaloids. Once it's all evaporated you'll need to salt it to preserve it. Tartaric acid is normally the recommended acid for this alkaloid. I'm not sure why.

For isolating LSA from the other alkaloids you'll need to perform column chromatography. SWIM no longer has the notes on how that's done.

Brilliant, though due to lesser steeping in chemistry worlds and parlance/rigmarole one has an inkling leading most likely to a more indigenous preparation. If we followed the A/B tech's etal, would any chemical residuals remain with the lsa, possible adulterating with remnants of the addatives used? If the chemical route be indulged in are all the required elements easily apprehended? Appreciation Ron.

The sun seeks not to divide and categorize, only illuminate, without abiding in imaginary lines invented by the human race. A rat race if you asked me.

P.S. Don't ask if your afraid.

I find it beautiful, Thanatananda23 thank you for your eloquence.


Much Peace

You can skip over the detailed purification and just do an alcohol extract. Infuse some vodka or something. SWIM did this once it tasted bad and wasn't really strong at all but it can be perfected.

If SWIY have no chem experience LSA might not be the best chemical to start with. Its not very stable and yea there are a number of other alkaloids and gunk in the seeds to separate it from.

Well, how might one go about doing something like a traditional water extraction, and maybe tossing peppermint into the mix? Most efficaciously of course. What were some of the most lucid and pure experiences other neuromancers have flown with?

Effulgence unbound. Erisian Sannyasin.

Love.

Doing a traditional cold water extraction using cold peppermint tea instead of water works really well. Use about 2 tablespoons of dried chopped up peppermint leaves and make tea from that using 1 cup of hot water. And then after steeping for about 10 minutes strain out the peppermint. Then chill the tea until it’s ice cold. Then grind your seeds and soak them in the peppermint tea in the refrigerator overnight. Filter out the seeds and enjoy

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If I want to read poetry I get a book of poetry. This is not a forum for poetry.

I still think the artful words are cool to read. I like a bit of art in everyday life and on this forum. This is a psychedelic forum about DMT. I think it's appropriate, and fun to read.

I don't think he sounds crazy, it might catch your mind off guard at first because we are mostly used to hearing the same old rote in speech, but I really had no trouble understanding what he was saying, and it really made it fun to read.

The fact that he had his question answered shows that he didn't scare people away, at least the ones who knew the answers to his inquiry.

I think that for us to show our intelligence, we have to stop squeezing people into boxes and throwing a fit every time someone tries something a little off kilter and new. Heck, maybe even complement them on their style.

Some people have a mind that works poetically, I don't think we should draw a line in the sand and tell those people they can only communicate to others through published poetry.

Anyhow, great thread, happy it flowed the way it did, and I'd hate to see the post where Thanatananda starts writing like the rest of us Keep it up, I dig it!

Ron your the man, always sparking my interest to try new things. thanks for blessing this nexus with your knowledge.

I liked this post. Although there were some grammatical errors... ^_^ Not really a poem but it was more of a psychedelic trip just reading it. Just glad there are those who are not afraid to venture outside of the verbal jail cell.

-Hotep.

Very well said Hotep. It's refreshing to read. I like it a lot.

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Just because most people have been conformed, doesn't mean everyone who isn't should be regarded as strange. The term I would use is 'elite'.

And who are you to dictate how left-brain this forum should be. Etiquette!

If grandiose or flowery terms perturb you, grab a lexicon and try to learn something new. Use your right-brain for once.

AND, IF Thanatanada IS the reincarnation of Jimmy Hendrix then blessed be ROCK!


I tried HBWR with peppermint extract sublingually.....OWWWWWWWWCCHHHH!!!!

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An alcohol extract of peppermint?

I for one, enjoy a good artsy post!

All said methods of "LSH preparation" would work with HBWR seeds as well, correct?

One of the many, many great things about this site IMHO is freedom we are allowed to discuss what we want, how we want. I can't stand the uptight rule-laden nature of many other forums out there.

I kinda dug his post.

the way the mind works, how words are put together and how the preciver sees is a delicate dance, that done correctly keeps us all out of the BIG house, and at the same time unlocks the house of the holy