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I'm just curious as to what percentage of people who use psychedelics are atheist, agnostic, pagan, Buddhist, etc. Anyone willing to share a QUICK summary of their beliefs would be much appreciated. I understand religion I'd typically a no no for friendly discussions, but I'm extremely curious so I'd like to ask that of you feel the need to respond to someone else's view, ask yourself, "is this response going to harm myself, the original poster, or anyone else?" Thank you and I look forward to reading the plethora of spiritual diversity.  Bassic When faced with a seemingly overwhelming obstacle...go back to your breaths.
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Obviously I am member of the Church of Dimethyl. Do you have 15 minutes to hear the gospel?
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I think I am like some sort of pagan pantheistic hybrid, I believe in parts of many things. Maybe a theosophist?
I don't know what I believe that changes. Sometimes I worship aliens, sometimes norse Gods. I do believe in God though I just havent had the privilege of coming face to face with him or her or it yet, that I remember in this lifetime. Sometimes I have felt like I was God so that complicates things to. If I am God what do I believe? I should know this.
Anyways a nice lungful throws any beliefs I have out the window so it doesn't really matter what I believe, I believe.
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adam wrote:I think I am like some sort of pagan pantheistic hybrid, I believe in parts of many things. Maybe a theosophist?
I don't know what I believe that changes. Sometimes I worship aliens, sometimes norse Gods. I do believe in God though I just havent had the privilege of coming face to face with him or her or it yet, that I remember in this lifetime. Sometimes I have felt like I was God so that complicates things to. If I am God what do I believe? I should know this.
Anyways a nice lungful throws any beliefs I have out the window so it doesn't really matter what I believe, I believe. So in a way, all is one, and one is all? When faced with a seemingly overwhelming obstacle...go back to your breaths.
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Hmm, this is a difficult one. Since dmt I have found it much better to not settle on anything at all. I don't really "believe" anything. I have ideas and hypotheses but that's about it. But I can say this. I believe it's very possible that we are all one. All a part of a source. It's also possible that the realm we visit while on dmt exists outside of our own reality and operates without us. I do not believe in any traditional religions. I used to be fairly athiest/agnostic but now my views have expanded and I see a much more complex infrastructure that supports this whole existence. Open your Mind ( โถ) Please read my DMT vaping guide ( โถ) Fear is the mind killer "Energy flows where attention goes" [Please review the forum Wiki and FAQ before posting questions]
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I am from earth..therefore earthling. Long live the unwoke.
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I agree with much of this. The realm in which the dmt experience exists is not that of space or time. It could be just another step of existence that we experience when we leave this dimension of reality. I practice many Buddhist philosophy and principles as I feel it is one of the greatest forms of existence on this dimension. When faced with a seemingly overwhelming obstacle...go back to your breaths.
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Buddhism is more an understanding than a belief or... I like Buddhism it def appeals to me. Like a scientific spiritualism. Listening to the bhagavad gita sung in sanskrit while dosing is an amazing experience. Edit: http://www.bhagavad-gita.us/Open your Mind ( โถ) Please read my DMT vaping guide ( โถ) Fear is the mind killer "Energy flows where attention goes" [Please review the forum Wiki and FAQ before posting questions]
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Traditional Buddhism most definatly is a belief system with a hierarchical structure and a specific set of beliefs. It does not really seem to be to be what many western people make it appear to be by simplifying it. You can claim it is not a belief, many do. I just don't believe them. The existence of some reincarnated guy called the Dali Lama present within Buddhism who does not even remember himself as this reincarnation should be ample evidence of a belief system put into place. Buddhist cosmology with all the levels of the bardos and reincarnation is not supported by mainstream science. To call it scientific spiritualism is fine, but many people would call that pseudo-science make belief. I am not saying that I agree with science(I don't necessarily) but I just sort of have to roll my eyes every time western people portray Buddhism this way while ignoring other aspects of it, like what appears to me as a male dominated heirachy with a pretty structured and far out cosmology. I got nothing against being far out. That's fine..just that there is no need to out a wall of science in front of something to make it legit, when that is not really true to the thing itself. I am not anti Buddhism, I just find that everything gets watered down in the west. Anyway, earth is pretty good. I got no desire to transcend earth or her rythms. Long live the unwoke.
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anrchy wrote:Buddhism is more an understanding than a belief or...
Yes I agree, it's a very well laid out map of how the mind works. I am not Buddhist, but anyone can use their practices and benefit be they Christian, Muslim, atheist, or anything. It's just a fantastic way to live in peace When faced with a seemingly overwhelming obstacle...go back to your breaths.
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jamie wrote:
Anyway, earth is pretty good. I got no desire to transcend earth or her rythms.
<3 this When faced with a seemingly overwhelming obstacle...go back to your breaths.
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jamie wrote:Traditional Buddhism most definatly is a belief system with a hierarchical structure and a specific set of beliefs. It does not really seem to be to be what many western people make it appear to be by simplifying it.
Buddhist cosmology with all the levels of the bardos and reincarnation is not supported by mainstream science. To call it scientific spiritualism is fine, but many people would call that pseudo-science make belief. I am not saying that I agree with science(I don't necessarily) but I just sort of have to roll my eyes every time western people portray Buddhism this way while ignoring other aspects of it, like what appears to me as a male dominated heirachy with a pretty structured and far out cosmology.
I got nothing against being far out. That's fine..just that there is no need to out a wall of science in front of something to make it legit, when that is not really true to the thing itself.
Anyway, earth is pretty good. I got no desire to transcend earth or her rythms. I don't claim to know much about Buddhism and I don't mean to simplify it. It was just for sake of brevity that I chose that description. I was also specifying a certain part of Buddhism, which was my mistake on not clarifying so. Open your Mind ( โถ) Please read my DMT vaping guide ( โถ) Fear is the mind killer "Energy flows where attention goes" [Please review the forum Wiki and FAQ before posting questions]
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I understand. People see wisdom in some of Buddhist philosophy and that's fine. There is some wisdom there as there is in most traditions. I just get the impression often that many people who claim to be Buddhist or talk about it, are sort of either just leaving out these other weirder aspects, are unaware of them or just don't really believe that stuff..but there are monks in Tibet who spend a lifetime(or lifetimes) absorbed in practices based on these beliefs. When I say "Buddhism" I am simplifying things also..there are a number of forms. Some of them I definatly see as more male dominated and hierarchical, perhaps contaminated than others. I believe in a lot of weird stuff that I don't think science is capable of verifying..so I am not attacking that aspect at all. Long live the unwoke.
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Really the (reported) teachings of Shakyamuni (Siddhฤrtha Gautama) were quite simple and clear. Likewise with the (reported) teachings of Yeshua (Jesus of Nazareth). Whatever grew out them is another story entirely.
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wu wei, la vie negative, the great negation and the perrenial wisdom are a few ways ive heard it called. its the "no way" way, if it can be called a way; the ending of the doer/mischief maker. the I, being always in the past, cannot respond adequately to the demands of the present. there is nothing it can do to improve its situation other than end, naturally, without effort. an example of negating would be: love is not jealousy; love is not hate...sooo you come to a thing through what it is not. when you put away everything that is not love then love remains, except its limitless, because it has not been posited as this or that. ive read alot of krishnamurti whom i would say is a great expounder of the great negation. this goes into it, especially at the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1J_qPa72S0"what is important is the freedom from authority" (even your own as the censor) i believe it maybe what the buddhas and christs have spoke over the millenia (if they existed (agnostic too)). the beauty of it is that there's nothing to do except to end doing (in the psychologiocal sense). if anyone ever says do this or that, i know its prescriptive and so the continuation of the doer. great teachers never prescribe ime, they negate. there is no authority in negation because there is no position. "only a closed mind is certain"
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religion, god what to do with it. i don't need it, some people do, and others are forced to. and everything in between. Disclaimer: All Expandeum's notes, messages, postings, ideas, suggestions, concepts or other material submitted via this forum and or website are completely fictional and are not in any way based on real live experience.
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my motto is: sinthesys and fusion. i could call myself a universal spiritualist... if i see any potential in a religion/cult/tradition/filosofy, i go there, study it, assimilate whats important and resonates with my heart (sinthesys) and add it to everything else i believe in the moment (fusion), petals of the lotus are many, but the flower is just one Healing someone is an act of love, but how can you love someone whitout loving yourself first?
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expandaneum wrote:religion, god what to do with it.
i don't need it, some people do, and others are forced to. and everything in between.
we become head priests of our own religion though don't we? with its specific moral code, concepts; which like any organised religion, believes their's to be the honourable "way". saying one doesn't need religion but have you dropped conceptual thought and live in the now? else you follow a set of rules like any christian, imo. "only a closed mind is certain"
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Religion is by definition (at least for me) an organized system of believes in a higher power. I don't believe in that higher power. Quote:but have you dropped conceptual thought and live in the now? else you follow a set of rules like any christian, imo. For me dropping conceptual thinking or a popular thing like living in the now ( Eckhart Tolle) has nothing to do with living by rules or not (we all do that) like any christian. I do have a life Philosophy bat that's something else altogether, imo Disclaimer: All Expandeum's notes, messages, postings, ideas, suggestions, concepts or other material submitted via this forum and or website are completely fictional and are not in any way based on real live experience.
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