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#1 Posted : 10/4/2013 9:25:00 PM

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i apologize for a potential repeat thread, but my searches yielded nothing. there are some publications done by the journal of ethnopharmacology however i dont have access since i didnt pay for the files. maybe someone here did..

publications i dont have access to

hey everyone, im hoping someone has looked into the dragons blood resin, specifically from the Dracaena cinnabari. its from a crazy island off the coast of somolia with super rare flora and unique evolutionary patterns. the resin is used traditionally and something about it being bright red (like virola) and a clotting agent (like mimosa) and a dye/varnish!. the seeds and sap from the core seem to contain the actives. its also been used as an abortefecant (same as syrian rue)

site about the island its from

i feel that the products made from d cinnabar and other dragons blood plants have not specifically harvested or processed with the chemical dexterity required to 1 concentrate to potent levels 2 preserve the psychoactives in a stable salt form (ie fumigates) instead of its natural form which may be prone to quick degradation.


consider virola resin, it dosent have a very long shelf life. its very possible the d cinnabar (or other dragons blood plants) contain unstable compounds yet to be discovered, i hypothesize one of the compounds to be dmt



heres a copy paste from wikipedia

Evolution[edit]

Along with other plants on Socotra, D. cinnabari is thought to have derived from the Tethyan flora. It is considered a remnant of the Mio-Pliocene Laurasian subtropical forests that are now almost extinct due to the extensive desertification of North Africa.[6]
Uses[edit]

Dragon's blood is used as a stimulant and abortifacient .[7] The root yields a gum-resin, used in gargle water as a stimulant, astringent and in toothpaste. The root is used in rheumatism, the leaves are a carminative.[8]
The trees can be harvested for their crimson red resin, called Dragon's blood which was highly prized in the ancient world and is still used today. Around the Mediterranean basin it is used as a dye and as a medicine, Socotrans use it ornamentally as well as dying wool, gluing pottery, a breath freshener and lipstick. Because of the belief that it is the blood of the dragon it is also used in ritual magic and alchemy.[citation needed] In 1883, the Scottish botanist, Isaac Bayley Balfour identified three grades of resin; the most valuable were tear-like in appearance, then a mixture of small chips and fragments, with a mixture of fragments and debris being the cheapest.[3] The resin of D. cinnabari is thought to have been the original source of dragons blood until during the mediaeval and renaissance periods when other plants were used instead.[9]
The local inhabitants of the city in the Socotra Island use the Dragon's blood resin as a cure-all. They use it in general wound healing, as a coagulant, cure for diarrhea, for dysentery diseases, for lowering fevers. It is also taken for ulcers in the mouth, throat, intestines and stomach.
Dragon's blood of Dracaena cinnabari was used as a source of varnish for 18th century Italian violin-makers. It was also used as tooth-paste in the 18th century. It is currently still used as varnish for violins and for photoengraving.
 

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#2 Posted : 10/6/2013 6:56:32 AM

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In the mid-western USA Dragon's blood incense is often sold as "red" opium. They mention it on erowid...

http://www.erowid.org/ch...ates/opiates_myth1.shtml

Dragon's blood is reputed to have a sedative like effect if smoked,
I have myself smoked it out of curiosity on a few occasions in the past but noted the effects were very slight, possibly placebo.
Even if a large amount was smoked the effects never became really satisfying or that enjoyable at all.
It also makes your pipe taste like incense for a long time after.
My observation was that Dragon's blood seems to be very harsh on the lungs even though it feels somewhat smooth when smoked.
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