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Gone-and-Back
#1 Posted : 9/29/2013 2:44:56 AM
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I am wondering on how all you wonderful musicians out there feel about jamming out on whatever you play while under the influence of your psych of choice.

I personally love doing this. I have done so on both low end dosages and higher end dosages of mushrooms, ranging from a gram to 3.5 grams, while jamming out on my bass guitar. It has allowed me to develop an interesting relationship with my instrument. I have been able to learn more from it and play it better, quicker, and more fluently while tripping on mushrooms. I actually just finished a short jam session with about a gram in my system, but because family came into the room I didnt feel the vibes I wanted to from it.

So I thought I would come here and see what others had to say about it. What do our musician friends out there think of jamming out while under the influence of any psychs? Do different psychs change the perspective at all compared to other psychs? Like do mushrooms effect how you play/your want to play differently then say acid or mescaline?

I am excited to hear everyones reports! Love
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#2 Posted : 9/29/2013 3:54:43 AM

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A friend and I played our way into the come on of an acid trip once. I was running through a decent set of effects and as things started getting weird the effects started piling on (ring modulation as acid is kicking in is a thing of beauty, ha ha), it was a really cool way to lead into the experience.

Lately I have enjoyed jamming out alone whilst stoned, I find new relationships with the shapes on the fretboard and the way I relate sound to it. The juxtaposition of different notes definitely become more novel and exponential whilst stoned Big grin
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#3 Posted : 9/29/2013 8:28:28 AM

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I once tried to improvise a country song immediately after smoking some jungle spice...

I failed.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/29/2013 5:43:26 PM
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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
I once tried to improvise a country song immediately after smoking some jungle spice...

I failed.


This, is awesome. I would imagine that it would fail pretty easily, dmt is to intense to pick up and instrument and try to play anything.

Jamming on an acid trip or on the come up sounds pretty sweet too. I have yet to try this or exeriment with different effects whilst tripping, that will have to go on my list of things to do once I find my power cord for my effects board.
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#5 Posted : 9/29/2013 7:14:28 PM

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I think it might actually be easier to climb ladders, or operate a boat while on DMT. I actually got the progression down though, until I slid through the floor. Damn it.

Acid and shrooms are definitely the way to go... But as a wind instrument player primarily, I don't like the aspect of sedation that LSD gives me on the come-up. Mushrooms have sort of the opposite effect, that in the physically strenuous effort to play for any prolonged time, I end up tripping so hard by the end that I usually find myself pretty out of sorts. Surprised
 
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#6 Posted : 9/29/2013 8:50:37 PM

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I'm a visual artist and have had some incredible sessions on both canvas and skin on varied doses of acid and shrooms (acid mostly- I tend to get too sedated on shrooms). On low doses my technical attention gets more pronounced- while tattooing, for example, I can feel the individual strikes of the needle with more clarity, modulate the quality of the needle strikes with great precision by making micro adjustments to the stretch, that kind of thing. At higher doses I'll get super focused on a single problem- lately it's been the large scale structure of the composition's division of dark and light. I find these sessions to be enjoyable and informative. It's funny, I can barely feel the acid while working, but the moment I put my tools down it kicks in hard. Pick up the tools again and the whole trip gets re-focused around the creative act.

At doses over 500ug I won't tattoo, and painting results might or might not be satisfactory. It goes deeper into chaos territory. I sprained my hand while painting too vigorously on 800ug, making a huge mess and struggling. Other experiences have been a place where any way I touched the brush to the canvas was the right way, totally locked in to the stream of the project. Set, setting and intention have always had everything to do with how these sessions went.

LSD is such amazing stuff...
 
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#7 Posted : 9/29/2013 10:30:01 PM

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This is a bit off the wall, but I'm a poi spinner, and I love to practice free-form spinning while on mushrooms.
Generally I'm too anxious on the come-up, but once I stabilize, grabbing a pair and just flowing is a really beautiful thing.

It's meditative, relaxing, and the mushrooms add a level of creativity that allows me to go deeper into tech-spinning then I usually can. I've come up with some awesome things spinning while tripping that I've later incorporated into sober routines and performances.

Not really being a LSD kind of person, I can't really compare them.

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#8 Posted : 9/30/2013 8:10:54 AM

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hand drums are almost always involved when i trip, and have been for most of my life. Theres nothing like breaking into a trip while beating the skins with some friends. Ive tried recording a few things with the guitar while on shrooms, but nothing has sounded as good afterwords as it did during the experience. Ive actually scared myself using an effects peddle on shrooms, and was convinced the music was coming from the score of the movie we were watching.

on a some what related side note....i believe the funkadelic album "free your mind and your ass will follow" was recorded and mixed during and acid trip, but i cant think of where i read it....
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#9 Posted : 9/30/2013 8:31:35 AM

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I've been a musician all my life, focusing on drums for the last 12 years.
I've found playing drums while on mushrooms to be an amazingly cohesive and flowing experience. My mind can come up with more interesting ideas faster and I can settle into the groove much more deeply. It's very pleasant and I would highly recommend it. Playing with another musician who's also on psychs can be a very powerful experience.

I've also played drums immediately after a spice breakthrough, while still in the warmth of the come-down. That was also a very lucid and beautiful experience.
 
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#10 Posted : 9/30/2013 4:06:26 PM

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Gone-and-Back wrote:

So I thought I would come here and see what others had to say about it. What do our musician friends out there think of jamming out while under the influence of any psychs? Do different psychs change the perspective at all compared to other psychs? Like do mushrooms effect how you play/your want to play differently then say acid or mescaline?


I have jammed on my guitar on a variety of psychedelics. Different psychedelics definitely inspire differently, affecting the way I emotionally want to play differently, and also how they can differently affect my very muscle movements.

LSD has a strong electric edge to it for me a lot of the time. Lots of energy can get pent up in the body that is just itching to come out, so LSD-fueled jams can involve expending a lot of energy, sometimes even to the point of frustration in coping with "boundary dissolution" issues. I sometimes feel like even though I'm well-connected to the music, I'm always just off the mark of completely satisfying myself on an emotional level (though not always). It can make music sound watery and cavernous to me at times, and so I will often try and take advantage of this by tripping out my guitar with a bunch of delay, reverb, swelling, S/H (sampled/held) sounds, etc...to create as much of my inner atmosphere in my outer musical display.

When I take pharma, I use rue as my MAOi. It has a bit of an insectoid vibe to it a lot of the time, and the energies in the air can entrain my fingers quite well, and cause them to snap into place seemingly quicker than normal with good precision. Because the energy is perceived as being outside of the body, interacting with my muscles from the outside, it doesn't create the same kind of emotional frustration as LSD. Pharma really allows for a strong connection with the music, and can encourage groove.

Although DMT typically provides for a lot of inspiration to be integrated into the music after the experience, some times on the comedown during the afterglow when things are still quite psychedelic, but the "main plot" has lost its thread so-to-speak, I will pick up the guitar. On a strong afterglow with full-blown synesthesia in effect, the experience fully becomes painting with sound (though it can feel like that on the other psychs as well). Every note and motion both create and modify hyperspatial objects. The beautiful thing about it all is how attention can affect the energy so much, so that when my music synesthetically creates a hyperspatial object for me to view, as I view it and direct my attention at it, it will continue to develop and flourish, and my attention that is being split on the music is creating a feedback loop of sorts.

On one occasion, I did play guitar from start to finish just to see what would happen. It was a marvelously wonderful experience. As 4D+ entities objects began forming out of the wall I was observing, they made their way over to me, gyroscopically twisting and corkscrewing their way over to me slowly, completely cymatically entrained by by music. "Everyone" involved was quite ecstatic. It felt like I was putting on a concert of sorts for them. I did record it (as I have with many of my other psychedelic jams) and wrote about it on here somewhere I think...

I can't recall if a specific instance when I've played guitar on salvia, though I don't doubt that it has happened, but the tactile distortion and confusion are just too much to cope with during that particular experience.

With DiPT, some kinds of music were much better to play than others. Anything that was "tonal" or harmonic should be avoided. The pitch shifting makes it too wonky for anything like that, but doing more atonal and fantastical stuff is fun and exciting. Everything sounded low, metallic, hollow and with a ring modulator kind of effect on it (not like a harsh one, but a tone like that).

Mushrooms can give me quite the whimsical, gnomish vibe, and that can inspire some cutsy "magical" kinds of playing.
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#11 Posted : 9/30/2013 4:06:40 PM

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I only have limited experience with jamming on psychs but when it happens is always wonderful.

The last time was with a fantastic mushroom trip. I sat down with my guitar and started going through some songs, singing and strumming the best I could. At times it became fairly difficult to remember how to play the damn thing, but as soon as I would stop trying to make it happen it seemed to fall back into place. It was like I was watching myself perform.

That feeling alone added a depth to my songwriting that I carry with me to this day.
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#12 Posted : 10/7/2013 11:35:44 PM
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All these experiences sound fantastic! Music and psychs go together perfectly, especially when you are the one producing the music!

I really want to get a better set of bongo drums for my next intense mushroom journey. I currently have a few sets but they are all only two drum sets and all exactly the same, plus they need to be tuned and I dont think we have the key for it anymore.

Would be really cool to go camping one day with some other people, each of us with a set of bongo drums or other type of hand drums, and journey together through the wonderful world of drum influenced psychedelia! All while ideally sitting around a camp fire somewhere in the far northern wilderness of the UP of Michigan or into Canada. That way we have a bright star filled sky instead of the lights from surrounding towns drowning it all out, damn those lights!
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#13 Posted : 10/8/2013 5:48:28 AM

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Global wrote:




the experience fully becomes painting with sound



reminds me of something Zappa would say
In dreams...I walk with you
In dreams...I talk to you
In dreams...Your mine
All of the time
We're together
In dreams...In dreams
 
 
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