I estimate my dmt dried paste to be about 50% pure. I take the harmine & thh first, followed by the dmt 20 minutes later, immediately followed by 2 potatoe chips, one of them with a dab of butter, to make sure the dmt dose not get trapped in the liver. The Thh is responsible for the modulating the tryptamine buzz felt all over the body to a pleasant tuning in frequency..THH is theorized to double the half life of dmt in the brain, I never take harmine without the THH, as the THH adds a very uplifting positive vibe to the whole trip, makes the visuals quite bright and easily seen, THH is the 2nd highest ingredient in real caapi, making up about 25+% of the alkaloid content, right after harmine, there is no THH in peganum harmala, and if so, less than 1.5%. There is no tolerance I've found to taking an ayahuasca voyage, it is the only psychedelic I know like this, it leaves you feeling energized and refreshed the next day, unlike most which leave you feeling a bit tired and drained.

Experience 7:

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I think i'm done with higher dose harmine (which to me is >90mg or so)...the dmt is derived from mimosa bark, which I think contains jungle dmt derivatives which are particularly menacing and frightening to me....what i've noticed is that lower doses of harmine (less than 100mg) tend to activate the dmt only part of the mimosa as I get really good meaningful visuals, very much like ayahusca, but when i activate all the mimosa derived dmt (ar around 110mg harmine)...i get strange visuals.

When it came on, I felt a strong familiar tryptamine buzz all over the body, which signals something is about to begin....i sat up straight for a while, started to feel quite cold, so put on a robe, and layed down, even putting 2 sheets on me, i still felt cold.

The visuals are quite different when I fully activate "all the mimosa derived dmt"....they are very alien, colorful of course, but the visuals at higher doses of harmine (which totally activates all this mimosa dmt derived stuff)...are very weird, i cannot derive meaning from them, they are extremely alien, even when i asked the trip what it was showing me, it did not answer, only gave me more of the same...i kept saying "i'm here to learn, but i don't understand"...it still gave me more of the bizarre meaningless alien visuals--geometric beauty with intricate designs, etc...but still no meaning to me.

at lower doses of harmine, which to me always see just to activate the "pure dmt part" of the mimosa, i get spectacular meaningful visuals...ayahusca style...

i don't think i'll ever be going back to this higher dose harmine/high mimosa dmt/ it is just too damn bizarre...the time i took 60mg of this stuff weeks ago, the visuals even began slap slick style with colorful geometric style pics of women in dog style with no clothes...i was like wtf? really creepy and sexual all at the same time.

I much prefer the 90mg of so dose of harmine fb + same amount of 35mg thh + around 40 to 45mg of the stuff...

weird stuff starts to happen at the 110mg of harmine + 50mg + mimosa stuff...mimosa can be a harsh teacher at this dosage and I'm not going back...the coldness sucked, as did the squirmy, and just kept saying to myself "i can't wait for this to end." yeah, it leaves you totally refreshed at this dose, but so do the lower doses...

i won't be going back to this higher dose, too eery and creepy and wierd...

at least it wasn't as bad as the time i took 60mg of this mimosa derived stuff.

the lower doses are great though, full on ayahuasca type visions and visuals with beautiful geometrics starting it all.

this "jungle dmt part of mimosa" seems to all get activated at these higher doses of harmine to me, i just hate it.

I still feel ever so slightly dizzy some 3 hours later, which signals to me that the dose of harmine I took was a wee bit high. This dizzy effect is totally absent at the 90mg level for me.

Experience 8:

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Well, 16 hours later I gave it another run...this time used my normal "sweet spot dosage" of 70mg harmine + 35mg THH + 33 mg dmt, then 1/2 hour later added 20mg more of harmine + 11mg more of dmt.

This time as expected, the visuals were astounding....there was no coldness or claminess, it is what I am used to with this ayahusca dosage..."sober visual tripping"...with open eyes the world looked incredibly beautiful...there was only a "very low level tryptamine buzz" which is a good thing....all of the world looked liked created anew, there was no nausea,

...with closed eyes fast moving flowing visions...beautiful meaningful geometrics gave way to the inside of Japanese structures...incredible architecture, I saw the sana with people inside...thousands of images all with a theme, beauty and the infinite...pagolas and flowers, coloful images with purple predominant in the begining giving way to all the colors...

this is the ayahusca I love, "sober like tripping" with no tolerance to having taken it 12 hours before, but this time with my normal "dosage" and easing into the dmt...i prefer to add about 20mg of harmine + 10mg of extra dmt some 30 to 45 minutes in, this seems to always result in a gradual intensity of visuals but with no accompyning body load...I was able to get up and walk around to other rooms if i wanted to, and the beauty was astounding with open eyes, very similar to mescaline or acid...but what i love the most are the meaningful closed eye visuals.

This I can deal with.

This morning, took the following....

Experience 10:

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THIS is it!

after months of playing with the doses, i'm finally figured out the magical formula that works for me everytime--a beautiful experience with magnificient closed eye visuals, fast moving and flowing, and with open eyes the whole time, the world looks enchanting, so beautiful I was nearly brought to "happy tears"....

I no longer have any interest in acid...this is where it is at.

The king of all psychedelics....properly prepared ayahusca...if you want to remain psychedelic for life, this is where it is at imho.

70mg of harmine freebase + 35mg of tetrahydroharmine (THH) + 40mg of the dried dmt paste

followed by two potatoe chips (one with a tiny amount of butter) to make sure the dmt
does not get trapped in liver. The dmt is taken 20 minutes after the harmaloids.

All of life had a futuristic look to it, ala acid style...

The closed eye visuals were breathtaking, mosaics of beautiful constantly changing geometrics giving way to vistas of other worlds...i travelled thru tunnels to be emptied
into an orgy of visuals and visions...i loved every second of it...and never wanted it to end.

For 2 hours, I was shown Heaven on Earth.

I'm getting started immediately on ***** extraction and most of all synthesis of more tetrahydroharmine, as there are no longer any commercial sources of it. Thank you Heaven
for this beautiful discovery.

I still love taking mescaline outdoors, and taking acid with sp. on a cold night inside on a weekend night, but for individual exploration, ayahusca cannot be beat...with this dosage I was free to get up and go into different rooms if I wanted to, or even go outdoors, but for most of the trip I lay down in bed or on a couch put on eye shades and enjoy the visions...and open eyes every now and then to take in the breathtaking beauty...music sounded so good as well....touched every part of my soul. THH imparts a very acid-like vibe to the whole trip, very futuristic/universal and fine tunes the whole experience, unparalled beauty....THH imparts magic on the dmt molecule, makes it last longer in the brain before being "zapped".

This is commercial bought THH, it is about 6 years old. it is very light tan, nearly white in color unlike my brown harmine freebase, the THH has a very sour taste, in fact when you take some orally, 20 minutes later you notice a very distinct "metallic" taste on tongue, just like with higher dose acid, when you then eat a bite of sweet candy, the candy to me taste like metal parts, also, i've taken over 400mg of THH over the course of one day, and never did I experience any sort of dizziness, whereas if I take more than 100mg of harmine, i get quite severe dizziness...which can last for up to 1/2 a day, the day I took 150mg of harmine...with the THH there is no dizziness. THH when taken in high doses can cause severe depression in me the following day (the time I took over 400mg)...whereas harmine just gives me long lasting dizziness and nausea at high dose. The THH has a very nasty taste which imparts a long lasting metallic taste to the tongue...the half life of THH is very very long, whereas the half life of the harmine is not so. THH hcl is also very "dense" a tiny amount weights quite a bit, harmine freebase is "light", a very different taste to each one, THH is extremely bitter and sour, harmine freebase no unusual qualities, plain jain.

Here is a pic of all three, the THH, the harmine, and the dried dmt paste, which I left out to dry for 1 week, then chopped up and put back into dark container back into a freezer.

The psychoactive effects from the THH on it's own vs. the harmine on it's own are vastly different, the THH is "euphoric", uplifiting, has many qualities similar to acid, the harmine when taken orally has a sort of dreamy and relaxing quality but I don't notice much more beyond that...other than when you take too much you are asking for trouble---dizziness and nausea become quite apparent to me past the 100mg level--the dosage everyone can tolerate varies from person to person.

When I first began my experiments, about 2 months ago, I had taken only 70mg of harmine with around 35mg of THH as well, but I failed to right down the amount of harmine in my journal, although i remember it was around the 70mg mark, on that 1st journey, I had rapidly changing super bright colored visuals, the likes of which I had never seen before until i once again took the same dosage a few days ago, the place I wanted to re-enter so badly with beautiful morphing visuals and could easily walk around or get up if I wanted to, with both journeys I experienced big time euphoria with eyes open when staring out into nature or looking at beautiful actresses on the TV, etc...the beauty was mesmerizing...the sort of things I've experienced on "peak moments" on mescaline or acid high dose.

The best explanantion I can give is that with "harmine + dmt only trips" the trip is similar to mushrooms but with much better visuals, however with "harmine + THH + dmt" the trip has a much higher "carrier frequency tryptamine" wave thru the whole body the whole time..i mean super high frequency...the trip is much much more similar to acid than it is with mushrooms...the THH shifts the frequency of the trip into the LSD domain, but with much better visuals...same euphoria and stable open eye visuals as well, no mushroom "waviness", no mushroom "muckiness feelings", THH is a very potent magical ingredient in these trips, keeps the trip upbeat, euphoric, very positive, and the visuals are simply incredible, much brighter and have greater impact..THH is where the magic is at...it really does double the "half-life" of DMT in the brain as theorized imho...harmine to me is the "amplifier" and controls the amplitude or "volume" of the whole trip, with 70mg of harmine + 35mg of THH, the lower dose of harmine keeps the overall "volume" of this high frequency tryptamine wave at a decent low level effect felt thru the whole body...it allows the dmt very decent activation...at higher levels of harmine (above 100mg) I get into trouble as this carrier wave becomes quite "loud" in volume felt over the whole body, to where I feel my whole body is oscillating loudly by the whole trip, feels way too strong, the trip is over-reaching and far too powerful at this dose...taking one into scary frightening regions you just don't want to go into...the visuals at this dosage are so alien at this dosage they have no meaning to me, there are meaningless and I am so cold at this high harmine dose that even 2 blankets I am still freezing, clammy all over and constant squirmming and praying for the trip to end....a bad place each and every time I've taken more than 90mg of harmine--disturbing trips, but the 70mg harmine trips are just fine, as are the 90mg harmine trips...but the 70mg harmine trips plus higher dmt are bad ass beautiful trips every time to me....with the same repeatable effects.

There is no tolerance to the effects of the trip, you can trip the next day if you want to and get the same bad ass trip...however, it is self regulating all on it's own. I have taken about 10 of these trips over the past 2 months, it took lots of experimenting to get back to the original place I had landed so beautifully in the very beginning.

I went thru a lot of bullshit and scariness at higher doses of harmine (which suck) to get back to the awesome lower doses of harmine that do the job just fine...with bright CEV's and potent non-stop ayahusca visuals all with meaning and themes very different each trip...higher doses of harmine on the other hand take you into severe alien territories, almost not meant to ever be visited...be my guest if you want to visit those higher dose harmine regions, full of bad body effects like bad nausea, cold chills, non-stop claminess and squirmyness and open eyes scaryness...the cev's at these higher doses are complete meaningless to me, almost like the behind the scenes blueprints of who really controls the show, we just think we are in control, when control is just an "illusion". Every minute of the 2 hour trips at these higher harmine doses I was praying for it to END, for it to stop, cause I could not take it anymore, non-stop torture and ickiness..please make it end, please make it end soon, over and over and over.

THH is often found in amounts from 25 to 35% of the entire alkaloid content (caapi only)...there is less than 1.5% THH in perganum harmala.

**I have taken several harmine only trips with dmt...and the trip BLOWS only the trips that have added THH kick ass. You can't pay me to take a harmine + dmt only trip, that's how vastly different they are...it's like a mushroom style trip vs an acid style trip, that's how different the trips are, seriously. If you like mushrooms, then have it (harmine + dmt only)...I don't like mushrooms all that much, but love acid...the harmine + THH + dmt trips have a MUCH higher carrier frequency felt thru the whole body than harmine + dmt only trips...it's like listening to FM radio as compared to crappy AM radio, best way to describe this physical frequency effect..which translates to vastly different mental effects.

Left to right: tetrahydroharmine hcl, harmine freebase, dmt from mimosa post heptane wash & dry

Thanks for sharing.
You motivated me to explore the lower doses, but no THH here yet.

What workflow are you going to follow to make THH your self?

If you got that THH from Flowing Visions its actually mostly harmine and dmt, with very very little if any THH. There was a big controversy about this a few years ago where their THH was tested by members here and discovered as a scam.

I can assure you this is THH and not harmine, rumors are hard to dispel once they get
started. I am a chemist and have access to spectrogram machines at my job, and it is the real deal.

However, if you don't have access, you may want to refer to this thread: How to tell if your THH is not harmine:

http://herbs.mxf.yuku.co...NOT-harmine#.UiL5oH_fLFw

Here we go again lol

Multiple analysis by expert chemists doesn't really classify as "rumors". That forum you linked is in direct association with the place you got the THH from (assuming it was flowing visions afterall).

They tried to cover it up by saying all sorts of malarkey, including even admitting it was mostly harmine as claiming "well THH degrades to harmine very quickly unless put in the fridge"! and all sorts of other BS

You've been duped.

Not only did several respectable/reliable chemists at this site show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the product from FV was not THH as advertised, FV engaged in numerous sheisty business maneuvers in the wake of the discovery.

It's not a rumor, so there's no rumor to dispel.

If you're a chemist, as you claim you are, you know exactly why the thread you linked is hardly the proof it claims to be. Also, I'm kind of confused as to the purpose of your claim of having access to audio equipment.

I'm locking this thread because, 1) your claims are wrong, and 2) it's only going to serve to stir up more BS. 69ron is welcome to come back and talk to the moderation staff here about this issue, as he has been since the day he left. Short of that happening, I see no reason for any more discussion of this issue.