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chaosbydesign
#1 Posted : 9/15/2013 7:00:08 AM

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I had a couple of experiences last week where I was fed food in hyperspace that seemed "more real than real"… These experiences have really boggled my mind! I had never quite experienced something like this before in all of my DMT endeavors! Soooo I figured that I'd come on over to the Nexus and ask others if they had experienced anything similar!

First off, I am going to copy and paste the details of the experiences in question from my DMT journal…

*****

This was an experience that I had 1-2 years ago:
During this experience, I was still pretty grounded in reality, as in I didn't lose contact with my ego and still knew where I was… But I still experienced entity contact. I saw orange forms and felt a feminine presence. I felt a tremendous healing power from this presence and felt like I was being taken care of (I was feeling a little bit sick at the time). The female entities were very warm and didn't seem like they wanted anything other than to help me… the most warmth I've ever felt from DMT entities. They fed me food.. it was long, and when looking back, reminded me of intestines in its shape (but not gross or anything). I felt happy and cared for, and it seemed that the food was meant to improve my health.

*

So, this first more recent experience was one of my strangest DMT experiences of all time… perhaps paralleled only by my most recent one which follows. As soon as I entered the trance state, I felt my mouth filling up with some sort of "food". It was textured just like dirt and even tasted like dirt would probably taste like (I probably ate it as a little kid). I felt it filling up my mouth kind of forcefully, but not in a violent way; just a little overwhelming. I felt very thankful for this "medicine" and instinctively accepted the food and swallowed it because I felt like it was the right thing to do. It felt like medicine of the earth (as I said, it had the same texture as dirt). I felt an intense flash of insight and knowledge after consuming this food. Perhaps it was "food for thought". I was reminded of how it is a personal mission of mine and has been theme in some of my trips that I am "meant to bring together the world of dreams and the waking state". This has been a literal idea of mine that I entertain, but more so, it is a metaphor to me and I feel that it means that I need to help people to be more in touch with their subconscious mind, their dreams, and their intuitions. After this, I felt a strong urge to send powerful intent to the whole universe and to all of the people in this world, for them to become more in touch with these parts of themselves in hopes of making the world a better place. With my friend, in tears, I voiced my intent. It was a profoundly beautiful moment.

*

The last experience I've had to this day (very recently) almost seemed like a follow-up of the previous one. After finishing the dose, I saw something I can only describe as white, wispy, smoky ribbons materialize. These ribbons eventually gave way to what looked like some sort of folded square. It looked kind of like a package, but it looked like it was made out of clay or dough and folded a little bit like an envelope. It was sitting on a table that seemed to be in a location that reminded me of the Catholic church I had to attend in elementary school. I interacted with the entity by waving my arms in a specific way, which "woke it up". Then I began a banter with it. I had a complete deja vu experience where I was once again fed food, and it felt *EXTREMELY* real.. just as much as the last time. I felt the texture in my mouth; it seemed kind of cardboard-ish, wafer-ish, or some similar texture (I later made a connection that this texture reminded me of the "host" of the Holy Spirit that we were given as Communion in church). I was given three of them, and went through an experience that I was absolutely *certain* I'd had before. I 'knew' in that moment that *this was the purpose, or at least a major purpose of hyperspace*; to bring back this material that I was eating! I once again instinctively swallowed it, and was fed the food three times as I mentioned. The last time, I felt the food lingering in my mouth, as you do when you are chewing food and get some stuck in your mouth. I could still feel it in my mouth as I was coming down, and I (stupidly, HAHA) tried to see if I could retain it and retrieve it after I started to come down from my trip! I realized very quickly how stupid of an idea this was, as I remembered the "merits of metaphor" and thought to myself besides this that it was almost an insult to not have faith in this great gift I had received. I stopped trying to retain some of the food and just thought to myself about the gift and how to utilize it. My friend who was with me during this experience told me that he had witnessed me doing the hand motions and dance, speaking to somebody, and then making obvious eating and swallowing motions (he even had seen it happen three times).

*****

I have since been researching a bit about entities giving people food to eat during ayahuasca experiences. The closest phenomenon I have been able to find is when tribal peoples were given " tsensak", or "magical darts" to swallow during their ayahuasca experiences. I have also thought a lot about the parallels of this experience to "the host" and "the body of Christ" and how this experience may have merely been symbolic of that. I always try to entertain all possibilities and meanings, and experience great enjoyment in doing so.

I guess that my main question is, has anybody else been given extremely realistic food to eat while in hyperspace, particularly food that felt just as real as the food that you consume in your daily life? If so, what kind of experiences have you had and what did you make of it? I would love to hear more… Does anybody else have any resources that discuss tribal peoples consuming DMT or ayahuasca and having these kinds of experiences? I find this phenomenon to be absolutely intriguing and would love to learn more on theories as to why this might happen.. Perhaps some Ayahuasqueros on here could share their thoughts?

Thanks for reading Smile
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#2 Posted : 9/15/2013 9:23:56 AM

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Never food or not that i recognised it as food.

But maybe check out some threads about the throat marble
I used to have this when i was using a glass pipe and not a vg
My mouth would fill up with crystals or paper very strange sensation.

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#3 Posted : 9/15/2013 12:12:20 PM

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Not really food, but most of the time when I smoke DMT (or when I take it orally, this happens too) my mouth will fill up with this sticky, stringy mucous liquid that doesn't really come around any other time. Sometimes it seems like the energy of hyperspace might somehow be connected to my retaining it in my mouth because sometimes when I swallow, it's almost as if the experience starts to loose steam a bit.
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#4 Posted : 9/15/2013 3:51:33 PM

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OP,.yes, no food sensations. I have vomited a gigantic black serpent made out of smoke, that I felt every scaly contour of as out exited my body, but nothing going IN, orally.

Global-I too have the mucous/spit thing go on, and I have always felt it to be some kind of 'earth-bound toxin',a sort of accretion of psychic/karmic poison that must be expelled. I usually trip with a wide rimmed bucket near me fort this purpose.
That's yet first I've heard another experience something similar.
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#6 Posted : 9/15/2013 4:22:43 PM



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i've had that mucus thing as well, just the other day in fact

Its interesting though that there is also something that rising spirit and hyperspace fool have talked about, but its sort of the opposite since the liquid has a distinct taste and when swallowed appears to be somewhat psychoactive. From what i recall its connected to some ancient meditative tradition



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#7 Posted : 9/15/2013 4:54:01 PM

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Oh, sorry for hi jacking the thread, but that sounds like amrit,a type of alleged psychoactive secretion that is supposed to be secreted during meditation, sorry don't know much more , but yes that is interesting.
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#8 Posted : 10/16/2013 9:53:03 AM

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See I've heard of the throat marble before and I've gotten it, actually… This time, however, it literally felt like something being shoved into my mouth from the outside; either that or just accumulating in my mouth out of thin air. SO what you say about the texture of the things accumulating in your mouth during the experience actually sounds kinda familiar! It felt like dirt or small bits of something well dirt-like the first time, whereas they felt sort of foamy and/or cardboard the second time.

As far as mucus goes, I *have* also gotten mucus in somewhat similar ways to how some people here have mentioned, but I know for sure that what I'm talking about in this thread at least is not the feeling of mucus because this feeling is completely different and it doesn't come from me (well, maybe from my brain perhaps Razz).. I perceive it being fed to me from the outside.. also I didn't feel any physical discomfort and wasn't regurgitating anything or spitting because my friend was watching me intently the entire time and said that I first appeared to be talking to someone, then I opened my mouth to accept food and made motions of eating and swallowing.

null24, Wow haha that sounds crazy! It sounds like the "smoke monster" on the television series Lost was inhabiting your body and decided to leave one day. Razz That's extremely interesting. XD!

Amrit I will have to read about.!! Thanks for sharing.



null24 wrote:
that sounds like amrit,a type of alleged psychoactive secretion that is supposed to be secreted during meditation, sorry don't know much more


null24 wrote:
I have vomited a gigantic black serpent made out of smoke, that I felt every scaly contour of as out exited my body, but nothing going IN, orally.


Global wrote:
Not really food, but most of the time when I smoke DMT (or when I take it orally, this happens too) my mouth will fill up with this sticky, stringy mucous liquid that doesn't really come around any other time.


expandaneum wrote:

maybe check out some threads about the throat marble
I used to have this when i was using a glass pipe and not a vg
My mouth would fill up with crystals or paper very strange sensation.

I am also Psychedaniellia (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=15453 ) on here, apparently. I didn't mean to make two accounts… :/

According to a lot of other peoples' signatures, every statement and story told on this website seems to be fabricated. And on account of the supreme weirdness of life, I must agree and do testify to this! :]
 
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#9 Posted : 10/16/2013 5:51:23 PM

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Hey all... thought I heard someone calling my name. Heheheeh.

A little late to the thread, but better late than never.

So, yeah... this Amrita or Amrit is the sanskrit term for a "divine nectar" that is produced via some advanced yogic procedures. It is primarily about getting the 3rd eye going with enough prana/chi, but it can be brought on by the use of a special tongue mudra where you reach back and up with your tongue to press firmly into the soft palette or even higher if you are able. This energetic or physical pressure can cause the glands in the center of your head to make some groovy stuff... which gushes into your mouth.

It is delicious, and subjectively feels to me like it is rich in some kind of tryptamines and even some beta-carbolines. I can't say for sure what the composition is, but it really feels a lot like snorting DMT with harmalas. There are a number of likely suspects like pinoline, 5 Meo DMT and our favorite NN DMT.

It is absorbed almost instantly, in a kind of über sublingual way, but it can be swallowed. Some times it is so intense that you have to swallow or spit it out as it can fill your mouth. It can be made while dead sober, but is somewhat easier to do if you are already a bit high. Meditating on aya makes it rather easy to produce IME.

This is clearly not the hyperspace food you guys are talking about... but it is a way to get into Hyperspace where you may get a wafer or some dirt. Heheheeh. Most people who get the dirt freak out and think they are being tortured. It is sometimes reported that negative entities fill people's mouths with a variety of unpleasant things. This report is one of a very few that I have read where the psychonaut recognized it as a gift of medicine.

I suppose it all comes down to who is offering it. Perhaps food is much rarer and more sacramental in higher dimensions. They certainly don't need to eat. Hence the lack of tasty cuisine. Maybe we should teach entities to bake their treats into delectable pastries or pies.

Very interesting stuff. Glad I popped over.

HF
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#10 Posted : 10/16/2013 10:17:17 PM

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I have never experienced the Amrit, but I will have to learn about some techniques for producing this and see what happens. I do tend to have a ton of communication and gifts bestowed upon me in hyperspace. People often hear me speak of my DMT experiences and say that they've never had things happen like the things I've experienced and wish that they could have experiences like that... However, here at the Nexus, I feel that a lot of people are advanced when it comes to navigating hyperspace so I know that a lot of you have experienced a lot of communication and other amazing things as well.

It seems like you're the only person who has posted here that seems pretty familiar with people being fed food by entities in hyperspace. Thanks for following the person who called your name, hehe Razz

You say that "most people who get the dirt freak out"?? I had an extremely good feeling both times I was fed the food. I felt honored and thankful to be receiving those gifts. The first time, it felt kind of overwhelming but it honestly felt like I was being fed medicine from the earth. I know that the texture was like dirt, but it didn't feel like 'dirty' dirt if that makes sense. It felt like something incredibly grounding and healing. I felt like I was being taken care of by an entity that understood me. Can you share some stories of people being fed the dirt-like textured food? Is this a somewhat common thing??? I couldn't find *anyone* else talking about it anywhere on the internet! Haha.. so your post really intrigues me. Why would they feel like they are being tortured just because they're being fed something that feels like dirt, though? That is what I don't get. I guess it all might depend on whether the experience has a frightening overtone, or a safe one like I felt.

When I was fed the wafers, it felt a lot more.. reverent. It felt very sacramental, but like I said, this may have been because of my association with receiving the 'Body of Christ' in Catholic school as a child, as the texture of this food was very similar. I always enjoyed the taste of the "Christ wafers", and likewise I enjoyed the somewhat tasteless but slightly tasty flavor of the Hyperspace wafers too. As I mentioned, I was fed three of them in succession. This time, it felt like way more of a gift than the first one.. If I had to describe their purposes, it was as if the dirt-like food was healing and grounding, and the wafers seemed very sacramental and I took it that they might contain some sort of Divine truth or knowledge.

It is notable to consider that both of these experiences happened to me during two particularly important, intuitive, and monumental (life changing in many ways and not just from the psychedelic experiences) nights in a row, in the same location (a place I was visiting), and never again before or since has this happened. I was so flabbergasted after this happened that I was searching everywhere to figure it out, and it seems like you are more familiar with this sort of thing than anybody else who has answered my posts. If you have anything else to share, please do! Smile Thanks for your input - I value it very much.

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Hey all... thought I heard someone calling my name. Heheheeh.

A little late to the thread, but better late than never.

So, yeah... this Amrita or Amrit is the sanskrit term for a "divine nectar" that is produced via some advanced yogic procedures. It is primarily about getting the 3rd eye going with enough prana/chi, but it can be brought on by the use of a special tongue mudra where you reach back and up with your tongue to press firmly into the soft palette or even higher if you are able. This energetic or physical pressure can cause the glands in the center of your head to make some groovy stuff... which gushes into your mouth.

It is delicious, and subjectively feels to me like it is rich in some kind of tryptamines and even some beta-carbolines. I can't say for sure what the composition is, but it really feels a lot like snorting DMT with harmalas. There are a number of likely suspects like pinoline, 5 Meo DMT and our favorite NN DMT.

It is absorbed almost instantly, in a kind of über sublingual way, but it can be swallowed. Some times it is so intense that you have to swallow or spit it out as it can fill your mouth. It can be made while dead sober, but is somewhat easier to do if you are already a bit high. Meditating on aya makes it rather easy to produce IME.

This is clearly not the hyperspace food you guys are talking about... but it is a way to get into Hyperspace where you may get a wafer or some dirt. Heheheeh. Most people who get the dirt freak out and think they are being tortured. It is sometimes reported that negative entities fill people's mouths with a variety of unpleasant things. This report is one of a very few that I have read where the psychonaut recognized it as a gift of medicine.

I suppose it all comes down to who is offering it. Perhaps food is much rarer and more sacramental in higher dimensions. They certainly don't need to eat. Hence the lack of tasty cuisine. Maybe we should teach entities to bake their treats into delectable pastries or pies.

Very interesting stuff. Glad I popped over.

HF

I am also Psychedaniellia (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=15453 ) on here, apparently. I didn't mean to make two accounts… :/

According to a lot of other peoples' signatures, every statement and story told on this website seems to be fabricated. And on account of the supreme weirdness of life, I must agree and do testify to this! :]
 
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#11 Posted : 10/17/2013 2:02:19 AM

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Kind of mirroring what has been said. I had this experience where I was laying down in my bed after a nice toke off the genie, when my mouth filled with my saliva, this wasn't my normal saliva, but seemed like a lesson in the whole divine nectar thing, because spontaneously I sat up got into full lotus and my tongue reached forcefully back towards my uvula. There was a powerful connection that took place, and I can see where the whole divine nectar thing came from.

I have had a series of trips where this has been general direction. It definitely feels like a nectar from hyperspace that is being absorbed sublingually back into my body. My body seems to want to go into this pose naturally. And it feels like as I am in this position I am entering some divine stream of consciousness, well first I enter this chamber and then as I make the connection of tongue to soft palate and focus on the third eye, I step into the steam.

Needless to say this is intense, and this topic deserves more attention imo. The position of the body and the fluids the body produces and absorbs is an interesting subject in relation to hyperspace. I think it has something to do the soma or the amrita.

 
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The fact that most people who talk about beings shoving dirt in their pie holes seem to perceive the experience in a negative light, clearly stems from the fact that the beings doing the shoving are glitchy, unsympathetic, and often tangibly malevolent.

When guides, allies, light beings and guardians offer you something, you surely take it and appreciate it in that light.

Beats me why 2 polar opposite types of entities would both be into shoveling dirt like stuff into your mouth. I imagine it has something to do with the fact that entities in those dimensional vibrations don't think of that earthy stuff as dirt, but rather food. But even still, having a group of unfriendly glitchoids shove anything down your gullet would be distressing... even if was Ben & Jerry's.

The common report I get makes the experience seem like asphyxiation... only it drones on and on for what feels like weeks. I am mildly curios if the substance is the same, or if vast regions of Hyperspace consider this kind of gritty, mineral laden stuff medicine or chow or both.

If you wanna find reports of people having been abused in this way, try searching for dark entities, dirt and throat... or insects, smoke, or serpents.

For myself, these experiences are rather rare, though. Somehow, in a telepathic world, the psuedo-physical stuff feels unnecessary. Anything you could receive in such a manner could be transmitted directly without any ceremonial psuedo-physicality. Perhaps these kinds of things are holdovers from a time when certain beings were still physical?

Anyway, as usual, more questions than answers.
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I had an experience of rapid fluid build up in the mouth during an ayahuasca ceremony...this occurred recently out in Peru, my third ceremony in a week, and following a second cup of cielo ayahuasca/Chaliponga/mapacho brew. The second cup took a little while to fully kick in, but it really did the trick. The fluid build up occurred very soon after purging. Just to make things very clear, this fluid was NOT either saliva (at least that from the salivary glands) or vomit, and was very obviously being produced from some other source. A great volume of it was being produced as well, much more than any usual salivation, and I head to swallow every few seconds at the peak, which the shaman leading the ceremony was aware of. This fluid build up also coincided with the most intensive part of a particularly intense ayahuasca experience.

I thought this was interesting:

"The pituitary gland is located inside a round bony cavity that is separated from the sphenoid sinus by a thin bone that forms the roof of the sphenoid sinus. The sphenoid sinus is the most posterior sinus. The drainage from the sphenoid is almost directly down the throat from an ostium (hole) that opens into the posterosuperior part of the nasal cavity. The sphenoid sinus is adjacent to the main nerve that is responsible for vision, the optic nerve. The main artery that goes to the brain, the carotid artery, travels along the wall of this sinus."

From:

http://biologyofkundalin...p?story=TheCrystalPalace

...I need to look in the biology of this to see if it adds up. But I could actually feel this fluid being secreted from somewhere around the upper, forward part of my nasal/sinus area, and it was produced in great volume for some time. I have never in all of my experiences to date experienced anything like this, it was strange. I'm aware the yogi's describe amrita as has already been mentioned, I'm not sure if this could have anything to do with that, but I wasn't aware of this fluid having any flavour (although it may have been dripping down the back of my throat while lying down, largely avoiding my tongue). Was a curious experience, would be very interested to know a little more about this.
 
 
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