So after investing 9 hours in a chacruna + caapi brew that didn't work I almost gave up, but then came across this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewamkPjI_pg

So went and got some mimosa and syrian rue, packed both in capsules as instructed in the video. Took the Syrian first, than 1 hour later the Mimosa. So 2 hours later, nothing, then decided to just chew a few more capsules rather than swallow, an hour later a heavy, tense feeling came, a feeling that I remembered as a child, the place somewhere between sleep and awakeness? I could be wrong but anyways, I am still coming down so I apologize for the somewhat incoherent writing.

Long story short, this was definitely something real, and divine. Why would I even be a rebel and go against it?

Aside from the tone in my ears, and "heavy" feeling, nothing was psychedelic about it UNTIL I looked at myself in the mirror, and on the wall behind me a spider, so i turned around and inquired, but some hand from inside me reached out and poked the spider, it responded by jumping at me, through my mouth, and then down to the floor. I tried to find it but it vanished (though somehow I feel it actually absorbed into my foot?). IT REMINDED ME A LOT OF THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dIILEyMauY

Basically I got the revelation that words hurt, and not particularly my words, but those malicious blabber directed at me, by family members.

Than I sat down and realized spiders don't jump, and they sure as hell aren't 1 inch in diameter. I had to Wikipedia "jumping spiders" to make sure. What's weird about that "heavy" feeling is it reminded me also of my time with parts of DXM - dextromethorphan. The spider is reminiscent of my time with parts of Benadryl (diphenhydramine) - I saw a huge crab/spider on the floor, though no where as clear and real as this DMT spider. Those are the two most "heavy" drugs I ever tried a decade ago just because they were cheap, and I regret.

Even though essentially it's a electro-chemical clusterfuck, there is still something divine and otherworldly about DMT. Before the spider I sensed my deceased grandmother in my living room? and then saw sparkles. The thing is I never met her nor particularly cared about her until 3 hours ago. All in all I'm glad I didn't go with a heavier dosage, it would've been to overwhelming.

Also before the Ayahuasca my feet were so cold (been that way for some while) they have suddenly warmed up, and I think it just may be permanent.

Anyway time to crash, I'll elaborate later.

Ok 1 more thing, I came in with intention of asking for insight on my career, and ALSO my ancestors, but all I got was ancestors. I looked in the glass window, and in the reflection I saw myself as a central Asian, nomadic Turk, Clad in wolves skin with a Tamga and overall raggedy clothes, my cheekbones protruded above all the others, I was blasted with vigor I have never felt before, ready to be aggressive like the wolf and conquer myself a good life, a peaceful warrior. However shortly after I had a mild ego death. No purging or anything. There was another spider encounter too but I can't really remember the details.

It was intense, and blissful at times. It hit me in waves.

While the waves were hitting me I wondered if one was truly pure inside and sincerely good, your experiences are guaranteed to be positive?... but Anger, resentment and other negativeness will take the form of a spider, snake, etc. I'll be blunt and say, this is the spirit world to me, until proven otherwise.

sry again but that is not ayahuasca at all. Ayahuasca means translated : "Rope of Death"
referring to the vine. Since you didnt use the vine its not really ayahuasca
Good that it worked for you but you must know that the vine is demanding and just does not offer an instant trip for everyone. Stay focused and work with the vine or take some other drugs if you dont have the time

While being "pure" and "good" (though a little ideal) would certainly help, I would venture that nothing when it comes to DMT is guaranteed. Sometimes it's utterly unclear why you end up with the particular experience you do. You set up expectations and DMT smashes them down.

Also I wouldn't necessarily say that a snake is a negative symbol or entity in hyperspace. I've encountered a few snakes - some very large scaley ones too - but they never struck me as being maligned as some other entities most certainly do. Mythologically snakes can be a symbol of rebirth or kundalini.

Glad to see you've taken your first steps. I wonder how truly effective the mimosa was taken in that manner. Perhaps you were experiencing something of the upper end of the rue spectrum of experience. I say that because your ayahuasca experiences don't sound like any that I've ever had, and not that I'm some great kind of measuring stick to compare to, but it just sounds strange for ayahuasca (while I keep in mind that DMT will be different for everybody and that DMT will continue to smash my expectations ).

Waking up just now, I just realized how odd my trip sounds, but that's exactly what happened with no sugar coating. The spider thing was absolutely terrifying and if I saw it in real life I would probably check myself into a mental hospital. What seemed like a casual house spider was just trying to crawl across the wall un-detected, and upon me discovering and inquiring it, it jumped at me and downward.

Also when I saw the weird visions of me being some Khan I wasn't really expecting that. I was expecting to see some Neanderthals or Cro-Magnon like Graham Hancock saw, I'm not of Turkish or Mongolian ancestry myself anyway.



Yes technically you are right, but that doesn't change the fact on the Ayahuasca sub-forum here people are also posting Mimosa+Syrian rue experiences.



Nah, i'll just stick to small doses of Ayahuasca. I don't even smoke weed, but thanks for your advice.



Well, I took a higher RUE dose than expected, just to ensure the MAOI effects would work. But I also took quite a lot of the Mimosa. and it didn't start to take effect until 2.5 hours later when I started chewing the Mimosa and breaking down the enzymes. I had auditory hallucinations, and every sound became crisp, sometimes a rhythmic tone would come. I believe it was a small to medium dose I had, and definitely a little too much for my first time, I said to myself "fck what have I done?" when it was coming on.



Right. I found out it's not un-common to not have visual hallucinations at all, just great insights.

http://forums.ayahuasca....pic.php?f=9&t=11869

Also, I had a dream, or more like mild nightmare of the spider while I was sleeping. Maybe I'm traumatized a bit.

Of course there are rue postings but it is a different thing. While it can get you some visions quicker it is also not as rewarding as real ayahuasca.
The Vine is not called "teacher" for no reason. It is worth while to stick with the vine.
I always prefer real ayahuasca over some analog because the other stuff is just inferior

Oo really? I didn't know that. I'd love to try real Ayahuasca but it seems overly complicated. You're right though it's different, in that it lacked geometric hallucinations, but either way Mimosa was definitely an enlightening experience.



But for convenience sake the fact that you can just pop a few capsules and experience it, without wasting the time of brewing it makes Mimosa superior. Also when taking orally, you need much less of what would be needed to make just 1 dose by brewing.

Here is what you have to do, it's quite simple, cost effective and time saving.

1.If you use the fine powder without the course stuff of the rue take at least 2 or 3 caps.

2.Wait 30 min to 1 hour befor you take mimosa even if you feel no real effect. If anything you should feel slightly dizzy.

3.For the mimosa 4 caps to start and add 2 to 4 caps after 1 hour in case you feel nothing. Add again mimosa after 30 min or 1 hour in case.

This video deserves a thread of its own:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewamkPjI_pg