Greetings!

I've been a reader for a while here and thought I'd take the plunge and intro myself..

I'm a herb smoker of 25 years and just got really interested in the spicy stuff. My only experiences with delics were shrooms and acid in the late eighties/early nineties and then I stopped for one reason or another. Probably not mature enough at the time to appreciate what I was actually doing. Everything was cartoon land and fun and games rather than serious exploration.

Anyway, after a couple of years being an armchair psychonaut and reading all I could, I actually went and acquired myself 100g of MHRB which I will be processing this weekend. Very exciting times!!

I've decided to keep things simple on my first attempt and go for the Lazyman's STB.. A good choice?

Once extracted, I was thinking of starting with a very low dose and working up gradually. I think a breakthrough after 20 years away from delics may be a bit much for my ticker. I'll start off with .02 and go up in .005s till it hits the spot I'm after. Sound good to you folks or should I just have at it and go .05? haha....

Anyway, cheers to all for the informative posts I've been reading and hope to run into you on the boards sometime.. I'll be sure to report on the extraction and first attempts at lift off!

Cheers!

Welcome to the Nexus!

You'll find DMT different from most psychedelics so starting slow is a great way to get use to the experience. If could make a suggestion, try to refrain from smoking any herb with it as it can tend to change the experience.

100g of MHRB is perfect for a first extraction and Lazyman's tek works great till your ready to attempt a more complex tek. I'd recommend the addition of some non iodized salt to help separation and I've seen positive boosts to my yield as well.

Enjoy your stay here at the Nexus, plenty to learn.

Welcome to the Nexus!

If you want to do an STB tek I'd recommend you to do Noman's tek instead.

What will be your method of vaporization/smoking?

Good luck!

Yep. I won't be smoking any herb with the DMT. I'll go in straight and just have a smoke afterwards to come down smoother.

At what point in the process would you add the salt? Just before adding the naphtha?

Cheers for the advice and welcome!

Thanks mate!

Why would you recommend Noman's tek?

I don't have any fancy pipes and don't want to use herb with the trip so I'll probably just use the ash sandwich thingy in my mini water bong. Should I leave out the water do you think? Any advice appreciated!

Cheers...

The fact that Noman's tek includes a sodium carbonate wash and freeze precipitation, plus the ratios of bark:water:lye:solvent are pretty well rounded...

As for smoking method, yeah you can try the ash sandwhich in a bong, it can work decently. Just go light on the fire.. You can use water if you want.

Ultimately I suggest you either build yourself (like inspirator mkII) or get a vaporizing pipe (like the GVG), as it is way more effective (need maybe half or a third of dosage) and smooth to smoke DMT.

Welcome to the Nexus, lazerfiend!

I have to agree with Endlessness on the STB extraction tek front. Lazyman's tek seems to cause people problems, so Noman's is a safer bet IMO.

I used the ash sandwich method when I first smoked spice and it worked ok. You really have to be careful with the heat, as I remember burning it a few times and it is not nice on the old lungs.

I hope it goes well for you

The no water rule is a myth I never have trouble breaking through and having intense trips with water still in the bong. The water does nothing it seems but make the hit smoother.

Hello there, fellow countryman. I would also recommend Norman's tek. I've been using it for years and it's been very productive for me. Very straightforward tek. I would also recommend finding some heptane for the decry stylisation as it is well worth it. I get much 'cleaner' crystals as a result. If you search the Nexus forums there is a thread discussing the best sources of heptane in the UK.

As for buying a GVG, they are expensive to import into Blighty - I paid almost £150! Haven't used it yet so don't know if it was money well spent, but I think many Nexians swear by it. I wonder if anyone here would recommend the Eagle Bill vaporiser? At the very least, it is a cheap way of smoking DMT, about £15 delivered.

Cheers for all the replies peeps!

Noman's it is, it seems I've got everything I need except for the wash so I'll get on the case this afternoon.

A couple more questions:

If I were to leave the aqueous mix overnight, or even for a couple of days, would this result in less pulls needed to get all of the product out of the bark? Would the lye do damage to the spice the longer it's exposed?

Also about vaping:

My mini bong is glass, so if I put a stainless gauze in the bowl (glass too), ash on top and spice on top of that, would it be a good idea to hold the lighter up against the glass below the gauze to heat the spice? The glass is about 3ml thick.

I'll get myself another pipe when I have some cash so would only be using this one temporarily.

Cheers again!

lf

You know now that I think back I too started with Noman's Tek it is a sound tek I actually still use it when I feel a bit lazy.

I like the addition of salt cause it will help separation and I've seen positive boosts to my yield. When you add the salt is not very important just add it before your pulls, obviously.

After you get a feel for extracting I'd really recommend Cyb's Max Ion Tek.

You can leave your aqueous mix as long as you want but the longer you leave it the more fat & tannins will come out. So if you want those nice white crystals everyone talks about I'd suggest you do 4 pulls after letting it sit for 2-3 hours. Then leave it for a week or more and do 2 more pulls to get the last drop out.

A bong can be a great way to vape your spice, There are a few thoughts on how to do it best though. Place some steel wool or at least 4-7 screens in the bottom of the bowl, place a layer of ash on that. Then add your spice and a nice layer of ash on top of that, now hover your lighter above the bowl and breathe deep. Some people believe that having water in the bong will encourage your spice to re-crystallize on the inside of the bong.

Personally for a beginner I lean towards the machine. It's cheap, effective and pretty easy to use. Then if you decide that DMT is for you I'd recommend getting a GVG.

Good advice. After you extract spice the next challenge is to vapourise it rather than burn it. When I began I wasted a batch by burning the spice...but I was impatient and impetuous... using the wrong pipe and wrong mesh arrangement. Now I only use a 'the machine' from a miniature (single serving) brandy bottle and...an Arc Tabletop lighter. Personally I find a torch lighter is a must.

Good Luck / You can do it!

Hi lazerfiend, welcome.

You have a perfect device in that mini bong, you don't need anything else. Just infuse your DMT into some mullein/herb and then smoke it like you would weed.

Boom, jobs a goodun.