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Amy S
#1 Posted : 8/13/2013 1:53:50 PM

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Are there any lovers of the classical music in our midst? I hope so.

Recently I was able to get my hands on Perlemuter and Horenstein's Ravel, and I've listened to Left Hand concerto several times, every time more amazed, there has never been a better playing of the concerto to my ears, not even Fleisher. Is anyone else familiar with or fond of Ravel?

I'm creating this thread in the hopes that I might be able to find a like mind here, and perhaps also broaden my horizons, I have heard only a fraction of the sum of classical music's productions. Please share your most beloved pieces!

I also came across this recently. Hold on to your seats when you press play.
 

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#2 Posted : 8/13/2013 2:15:12 PM

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I mostly like pop music but i am not averse to a bit of classical. I like the first bit of the tune below up until it kicks off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2UMO6rZd4

I like the planet suite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHVsszW7Nds

Beethovens fifth is a no brainer but i also like his moonlight sonata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU

His 9th symphony ain"t too shabby either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3217H8JppI

Everyone likes Wagner"s Ride of the Valkyries ?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU
 
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#3 Posted : 8/13/2013 5:47:24 PM

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I love classical music. Grew up playing it, in fact. But for whatever reason, it's never been my choice with psychedelics.
 
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#4 Posted : 8/13/2013 5:53:31 PM

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Great fun of classical music here as well.

mostly baroque and js bach in particular, but I also enjoy some schoenberg now and then. I can't stand mozart, handel and wagner.




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#5 Posted : 8/13/2013 5:55:20 PM

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I love Classical music as well. I see it as being quite analogous with hyperspace. Both hyperspace and music arrange themselves in similar ways with harmonious layers that often build to a climax in similar ways. All of the intermoving parts of hyperspace can be so musically arranged. Sometimes it feels like there is a modulation (key change) in color and aesthetic building momentously to epic climaxes. Based on the lullabies I've heard from hyperspace and the harmonic part-writing that it employs, I would say that hyperspace is rather fond of classical music as well.
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#6 Posted : 8/13/2013 6:11:26 PM

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Global wrote:
I love Classical music as well. I see it as being quite analogous with hyperspace. Both hyperspace and music arrange themselves in similar ways with harmonious layers that often build to a climax in similar ways. All of the intermoving parts of hyperspace can be so musically arranged. Sometimes it feels like there is a modulation (key change) in color and aesthetic building momentously to epic climaxes. Based on the lullabies I've heard from hyperspace and the harmonic part-writing that it employs, I would say that hyperspace is rather fond of classical music as well.


This is so very true, which is why it's always been curious to me that (for me) the two just don't seem to jibe. I'm a huge fan. The music (baroque, in particular, but other as well) deeply resonates with me - and actually, back in my days of opiate addiction, I used to listen to hour after slobberingly wasted hour of Bach, Beethoven and Mozart. It's just something I never reach for when spelunking my brain on psychedelics.
 
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#7 Posted : 8/13/2013 6:58:48 PM

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I love it. Playing in an orchestra as a kid was a pretty mind blowing experience as well

Global wrote:
I love Classical music as well. I see it as being quite analogous with hyperspace. Both hyperspace and music arrange themselves in similar ways with harmonious layers that often build to a climax in similar ways. All of the intermoving parts of hyperspace can be so musically arranged. Sometimes it feels like there is a modulation (key change) in color and aesthetic building momentously to epic climaxes. Based on the lullabies I've heard from hyperspace and the harmonic part-writing that it employs, I would say that hyperspace is rather fond of classical music as well.


Well said!



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#8 Posted : 8/13/2013 8:35:18 PM

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#9 Posted : 8/24/2013 2:08:49 AM

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Vivaldi's Winter

One of Haydn's Quartets

Excellent Orchestrations of Debussy's Children's Corner Suit (Uploaded to Youtube by me! Big grin )


Really, Bach, and Vivaldi are tops tops tops tops.

And Beethoven is to music as computers are to Fractal imaging Laughing

 
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#10 Posted : 8/24/2013 2:10:50 AM

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Vivaldi's Winter

One of Haydn's Quartets

Excellent Orchestrations of Debussy's Children's Corner Suit (Uploaded to Youtube by me! Big grin )


Really, Bach, and Vivaldi are tops tops tops tops.

And Beethoven is to music as computers are to Fractal imaging Laughing


You mentioned Wagner, here is an excellent piece from one of his Operas

 
Amy S
#11 Posted : 8/24/2013 5:04:53 AM

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obliguhl wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv67YkOWJNA

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Form is nothing to him, content everything, and the kind of content he likes is the convulsive, the ecstatic, the cataclysmic, the terrifying, the unreal.

Yeah, so incredible. That man had (and still has) a huge influence on my films... For me he is the ultimate 'dream-state' musician.
 
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#12 Posted : 8/24/2013 5:12:21 AM

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When my kids were born we used to play various classical music for the different effects it had on them.

We used to play a lot of Mozart and Bach because I'd read somewhere that it stimulates alpha brainwaves and puts people in state where they can learn and retain information much better.

Each morning we would play some of the tracks that seemed to get their attention and then we used a magnetic sketch board (Megasketcher) -the best things we ever bought for them, to teach them to read. My kids could read around 50 words before they could speak. We also taught them to count, add and subtract etc that way. Plus we had heaps of fun drawing pictures with funny captions etc.

The learning sessions without the classical music prelude never had the same impact, I'm 100% convinced it worked to get the in the zone. My kids can now read at a level way beyond their peers and they can add emotion and tempo to their reading where their friends really struggle and read like robots.

Some mornings in bed we would play a CD set on random and one of those Bach tracks with the harpsichord music would come on, at times it was just too much for that time of day.

When the kids went to bed we used a playlist of classics to wind them down and help them drift off to sleep.

Bach was one twisted genius - his music just goes straight to the soul and fires up something deep within. Just thinking about his music can change my brainwaves and put me in a different zone.

People would ask me when I'd put the classical music on for the kids - Why do you play that shit for them ?
I'd reply if you had the choice to have your brain hard wired to a backdrop of music would you choose something dull and repetitive or something proven to inspire intelligence.



Bach on acid is something everyone must experience at least once.

 
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#13 Posted : 8/24/2013 5:19:24 AM

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Just thinking about his music can change my brainwaves and put me in a different zone.

I feel the same way about Emily Dickinson, and Georg Trakl. Among many others. And yeah it's sad how poorly valued classical music is today by the average person, who would prefer to listen to bad pop or rock music and anesthetise themselves.
 
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#14 Posted : 8/24/2013 6:44:48 AM

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Another fan of Bach here; Tocatta and Fugue with LSD is incredible, IMO.
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#15 Posted : 8/24/2013 6:49:13 AM
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..yeah Bach all the way! especially organ works..

Bach's great on lsd..

i don't mind a bit of Stravinsky either.."Rite of Spring"..
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#16 Posted : 8/24/2013 3:58:24 PM

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Amy S wrote:
the average person, who would prefer to listen to bad pop or rock music and anesthetise themselves.


Do you think that someone who listens to bad pop or rock music has a less profound experience than someone who listens to classical? I don"t ask this question to derail or be argumentative, as it is something i ask myself on occasion. Is taste and depth of experience relative?
 
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#17 Posted : 8/24/2013 4:01:08 PM

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Resphigi's Pines of Rome.

http://youtu.be/62V-ALlLZSg


I assure you this is worth listening to


At hug46,

Objectively speaking, most of this music is composed with more intentionality and for instance a lot of pop music evokes the instinctive center to respond (which can feel like a profound experience)
In general classical music evokes the moving center to respond (slightly higher level of emotion)

However, the emotional center can be evoked by either type of music an that has more to do with ones emotional center than the objective qualities of a piece of music itself.

Or, very repetitive beats of pop music are more instinctive, as also evoke the most mechanical parts of ones moving center,

Whereas unique melodies and compositions mostly evoke the more emotional part of the moving center and also evoke certain parts of the emotional center.

So yes classical is of a higher cloth, but at the same time I have a very specific style of "pop" in mind,
And I know that the emotional center is often evoked by certain lyrics be it positive or negative.
 
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#18 Posted : 8/24/2013 5:11:23 PM

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cubeananda wrote:
Resphigi's Pines of Rome.

http://youtu.be/62V-ALlLZSg


I assure you this is worth listening to


At hug46,

Objectively speaking, most of this music is composed with more intentionality and for instance a lot of pop music evokes the instinctive center to respond (which can feel like a profound experience)
In general classical music evokes the moving center to respond (slightly higher level of emotion)

However, the emotional center can be evoked by either type of music an that has more to do with ones emotional center than the objective qualities of a piece of music itself.

Or, very repetitive beats of pop music are more instinctive, as also evoke the most mechanical parts of ones moving center,

Whereas unique melodies and compositions mostly evoke the more emotional part of the moving center and also evoke certain parts of the emotional center.

So yes classical is of a higher cloth, but at the same time I have a very specific style of "pop" in mind,
And I know that the emotional center is often evoked by certain lyrics be it positive or negative.


I would say there are a glaring amount of overgeneralizations there. These categories/genres are so big and expansive, that it's practically meaningless to try and talk about them as if all the compositions under these overly large umbrellas are all or even mostly alike.
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#19 Posted : 8/24/2013 5:28:30 PM

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Sure but there's also resphigi's pines of Rome in there Rolling eyes

And these generalizations are quite profound points,
The whole question to begin does not invite an answer so what's wrong with my answer?
It's that I answered a question which is bound to draw lines where anyone trying to be very careful wouldn't draw.

In the end profound experiences are either of an emotional part of a center or of the emotional center itself.
So if you consider that I'm only working from the actual "profound experience" itself, it doesn't make a difference what one would classify anything as.

To my being, the song is classified as the experience.

This is where the generalizations begin. In general, my being has observed a relatively "higher" experience with "classical music" rather than pop music.

But I did try to indicate that sometimes my emotional center has been in such a state that "pop" music evoked near-ecstatic experiences which classical music inherently does not (unless my emotional center happened to be evoked by some other circumstance rather than another one)

Maybe my mode of thinking doesn't fit with yours but I found the word "glaring" to be rather "glaring" Laughing

 
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The way you react to the different kinds of music may say more about yourself than the music...
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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