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Karnov
#1 Posted : 8/10/2013 10:29:10 PM

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One of my grandparents passed away yesterday, after a long illness. It was not unexpected, but these times are never easy.

I vaped a large dose of DMT, several times last night, and the overall response I felt was one of ease, serenity, oneness, and at points, as if guidance were being given. There was a lot of smiling by myself and in the imagery (OEV, CEV) I experienced.

I'm becoming aware that some of my experiences on DMT are uniquely concrete in their "realness" (as I perceive it, subjectively) and at the same time if I were to say to someone, "I can speak to the dead" it would sound crazy, but also not describe what I experienced. It was an exchange of information, my antenna was receiving communication, thinking, understanding all that was conveyed. But this was not like some trumped-up experience with a medium where communication is in discrete packets and messages, exactly. It was diffuse, deeper. I loved the sense of reassurance that this experience left me with.

I was wondering if anyone had used DMT during a similar time frame of a friend or loved one's passing and if that experience differed from a time much later after a friend/loved one's death?

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jamie
#2 Posted : 8/11/2013 12:37:56 AM

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my grandfather died last October right around Halloween, and the timing was such that he must have passed away right when I smoked DMT at home one night. The trip was dark and freaky and I lost it at the peak. It was odd and curious anyway. Alcohol was his demon and I feel like his dying could have had something to do with that demon being released at the time of my trip..but I cant say. I wont forget that trip though.

Both of my grandfathers died within like less than a year of each other. I did some medicine work during that time in relation to ancestors. It really made me think about ancestors, and also the lack of people coming foreward to take up the role of Elder in our society. We have lots of elderly people, but so few that I could call an Elder. I realized how sorry I feel for that generation of people because they have been sort of barred from growing into that role which is so natural for us.

Since I have been watching my relatives pass away and become my ancestors, I have begun more and more to want to not miss the chance for our generation to accept the role of Elders again when we grow old and wise.
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#3 Posted : 8/11/2013 1:12:38 AM

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The first time I took ayahuasca it was right after the passing of a best friend. The whole trip was dedicated to the after life and me being shown that.

Psychedelics can help, in my opinion, with the passing and coming of life for sure.

Sorry for your loss.
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#4 Posted : 8/11/2013 1:16:50 AM
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I have not done psychs right after a family members or friends death, but I did smoke a very large dose of DMT sitting where my great aunt (who had raised me and I consider to be my mother) had passed away.

This whole trip was very involved with the spirit realm, and I saw many things that I would consider to be peoples spirits floating around. If one of them was her or not I can not say, for none of them communicated with me.

I did however feel a very strong sense of safety and serenity, like something or someone was wrapping me up in their arms and protecting me from what could of been. Maybe this was her...I will never know for sure.
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Karnov
#5 Posted : 8/11/2013 6:10:32 AM

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Thanks, all.

@DeDao--that sounds like a profound experience.

@jamie--that's a good observation and it's true, "Elder" has seemed to have disappeared from our culture (Well, in the States, at least.

@ Gone and Back--I love that sense of serenity that sometimes accompanies a trip in hyperspace
 
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#6 Posted : 8/11/2013 6:52:24 AM
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That sense of serenity and safety only happens when I have vaped in the room that she passed away in. It is strongest when I sit in the chair that takes the spot where her hospital bed sat, she was on hospice care in our house. I now have her bedroom as my bedroom.

It is odd how that effects the experience. I dont know if it is her helping me along, even though she did not approve of these things, or if it is just my mind playing a trick on me. I like to think its the first, because we ended on a bad note. Its nice to think she is still looking out for me even though we ended that way.
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#7 Posted : 8/11/2013 8:25:39 AM

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Grief is the emotional reaction to the mind loosing a connection.

Psychedelics may help alleviate grief by taking that lost connection and translating it into a new kind of connection (a connection through or to the universe, instead of a personal relationship).

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