Can you eat the plant material raw, both the DMT containing plant and MAOI? I really don't mind the taste plus I'm sure I can stomach it. I eat 3 raw eggs daily with no problem.

I am not sure what your plant sources are, but caapi vine is well, a vine and would be pretty difficult to eat. psychotria viridis leaves probably don't taste good nor do I imagine chaliponga leaves taste good either. Mimosa hostilis root bark I cant imagine that being easy to eat either.

Is there something you have against making a tea? It seems far simpler way.

Also forgot to mention the amount of material you would have to eat which would be at least around 50g of vine, which would probably not digest well.

maybe you could get some syrian rue seeds and eat 2-6 grams of that but those taste horrible.

Anyways the more I type the more I realize this is a bad idea, just stick to drinking tea I am certain it is far easier than eating these things.

^From what I read, so many things can go wrong, even those people who thought they followed every step accordingly still cant get it right on their 5th turn. I don't want to waste $100 on the ingredients only to fail. Besides the extra fiber is good. So what do you say should I go ahead with it? I really don't mind the taste.

I tried this... Rue/Mimosa
i wasn't able to hold it down very long.
I only got the high and glow effects.

Idk I guess if you have powdered rue and mimosa it may be possible. My guess is the nausea would be overwhelming though.

In my opinion the more traditional method would be A lot more effective than trying to eat plant material, eating any kind of root bark would be easier said than done those Tannin's and such in it can be pretty cringe worthy to the mouth and stomach.

you cant compare this to you eating a raw egg.

You should compare it to eating a piece of a 2x4.

IIRC the Piaroa and other indigenous group chew caapi vine... I'm not aware of any of them chewing DMT-containing plants too, but they do also concurrently use snuffs which contain tryptamines.

You can always try it out, but I'd bet it would be WAY harder on the stomach than raw eggs... So start with low doses.

Ok well I got the necessary ingredients ready, 100g of Banisteropsis caapi and 50g of psychotria viridis of which I will split in half and save the other half for later. Just getting everything prepared & I will write a report of how everything goes. BTW coincidentally in real life my name is Dmitri so maybe it's meant to be.

why in the world would you try to eat that much wood when you can just brew it into a tea?

Because of this:

help! 8th failed ayahuasca attempt, sad

is that you or someone else? was all the plant material from the same place? (its rare but some is more or less bunk)

if it hasn't worked 8 times in a row personally i'd just extract or try and figure out what went wrong, since its a fairly simple process after all, instead of resorting to eating wood. The likelihood of that working seems even less considering how much harder it is to digest and the delay involved in that

Piaroa do chew it yes, but they don't eat it. They chew it so that alkaloids absorb sublingually and then they spit it out and snuff yopo. Amazonian tribes do apply tryptamine snuffs to the gums also. Johnothan Ott reports about tribes that make pastes with caapi, tobacco and tryptamine plants that they use sublingual.

So does anyone have an alternative? A 100% guaranteed SIMPLE method that won't end in failure?

That link you posted is weird. The person (you?) was using phalaris as an oral DMT source? That's not a good idea... And what does this have to do with caapi and p. viridis?

A good method? Brewing propper ayahuasca from a good source in the correct dosage. If it didnt work, either it wasnt brewed properly or the source material was bad. If its the second case, eating it wont help with anything. If it was the first case, then just learn how to brew better (FAQ has instructions) and it will work much better than eating wood.

Thats my opinion ...

No the person is not me, but if he has failed 8 times I don't think I could do any better.
Anyway I will take your advice and go ahead with brewing. If it's anything like brewing orange pekoke tea like I do every morning than I will be in luck, but unfortunately the process looks a lot more time consuming. Reading the FAQ's now, thx.

That person was using 'big medicine' phalaris grass, I'm not sure what that person means with "22 'big medicine' strain phalaris" as an amount but looking at the many attempts it's the number one suspect for the failures.

You on the other hand are using Banisteriopsis caapi as the MAOI and Psychotria viridis as the DMT containing plant. These two are much more reliable to work with.

To get the goodies out of the plants you have to break down the cells of the plant. By chewing, mouth enzymes and stomach acid you are unlikely to break down enough cells to get the desired effects, so by eating the plants you are actually targeting for failure. Boiling on the other hand is a sure way to break enough cells to get the goodies out (as long as you boil it long enough).

Of course you can still go ahead and try it out for the sake of science, but I would never ever try that route myself.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Its incredibly easy to brew, and worth it.. Just read

For the sake of testing, in separate 2 sessions, he swallowed 2 grams of muricata vine, very fine powdered to dust. Drop in dry and swallow with water, no big deal.

For being only 2 grams, the effects could not be better with boiling, subjectively guessed.
This was a closed eyed being quiet meditation purpose.

But the stomach had a hard time working on it, that could be felt, not too hard, but one could feel it clearly working down there. He has a good strong stomach, never trouble or complaints.

He can't imagine 5 grams or up, would just be too difficult hardware wise.

I have done it before,

Put the Root Bark in something like Coconut Flour and eat that.

Works well for me, and you know you're getting all the actives