Which seeds eaten plain give the best LSA trip: Morning Glory (Ipomoea violacea), Ololiuqui (Rivea corymbosa), or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (Argyreia nervosa)?

SWIM is only familiar with Hawaiian Baby Woodrose.

I've heard some say that Ololiuqui is the best one.

So other than potency, what exactly is different about the trips produced by these three different LSA sources? Which is preferred and why?

Swim hasn't tried ololiuqui,but wants to I hear they have the least toxins though so you can eat them straight with no nausea might be why. SWIM likes morning glory better seems more visual in higher doses if I feel like dealing with nausea(only eaten them plain and CWE could try some stramonium seeds though might work)otherwise HBWR is convenient since you don't need much.

Definitelly Ipomoe Violacea but exactly this one
ILPT has vast experiences with this seeds because he was growing them few years and harvested thousands of seeds
Dose which will work and doesn`t cause much side effects was established for ilpt and friends somewhere btw 300-400 seeds(potency of seeds obviously vary but once you got your plant you will be familiar with alkaloid content and will establish your dose).
I think you are far too sensitive to psychedelics maybe you should start as low as hundred seeds and increasing your dose accordingly.


In colder climates like uk one can grow plenty ipomoeas, they doing very well. But the time is now, is may already. ILPT sprouting seeds somwhere in middle of april and this time of year he has already small plants which are ready to go out next to the big fence so they can twist around fence and grow wildly
In gardener shop you can buy 300 seeds for £1(careful those are treated with Hg salts, not for ingestion!!! ) plant them and each plant(if supported well)can yield 1500-2000 seeds
It`s cheapest psychedelic ever!!! For £1 with a bit of effort after 6 months one can end up with 1500 decent dosages

Ilpt`s best result was to step finely grounded seeds with grounded coffee
It seems it actually contain some Lsh or something like that cos it not as sleepy as Hbwr, although not analysis has been done to confirm this speculation


Other ipomoeas(purple, pink, white) are more weaker. Don`t now about rivea corymbosa.

Not true, they cause nausea in quantities over 100-150 seeds for ILPT and friends!

Would be very nice develop some swift tek where only Lsa(lsh)would be targeted.
Have heard that you can separated them only via column chromatography.ILPt reckon if somebody will play with solvents and pH one would be able to get mostly desired alkaloids and not many utherotoxines

I've heard people getting effects as low as 50, but I hear potency can vary and obviously sensitivity.

those heavenly blues have given swim some amazing experiences - hbwr has always sucked badly in comparison - swim felt like he was half dreaming half poisoned from the hbwr - no nausea tho - the mg seeds produce nausea but a far far far better exp, cwe on mg seeds never matched eating them in potency but the nausea is reduced greatly - swim has a nice huge rivea vine that should flower soon - then swim would have tested all 3 kinds.

on dose - eating them (the mg) 300 seeds is about the most u wana eat - on cwe swim tried with 600 seeds and the fx were equivelent to say 150 eaten mg seeds - the cwe picks up something or some of the actives but there is deffinately something missing in the exp.

The same got ILPT when he firstly experienced HBWR seeds

Processing them wit coffee, ginger juice and ginkgo took those poisoning feeling away chek it out

the dose for rivea(ololiuqui) is 100-150 seeds
fresh or not, seems to make no difference.
they taste much worse than either morning glory or hbw, though.

I like ipomea more then the others. Can't tell why. More dreamy.

Good to see Morning Glory have some fans.

One week ago I seeded some Morning Glory 'Flying Saucers' and look at them now:

Awesome Traveler. LSA(LSH) is nice, but the effects are hard to replicate on a consistent basis in my limited experience.

Rivea Corymbosa!

Haha, nice low dose, no nasty gut rot or leg cramps like HBWR, and no giant piles of seeds like MG. IMO.

SWIM grows morning glories (heavenly blue variety) almost every year but never actually ate the seeds. Does it make you feel sick?

swims best best experiences were from eating 280 seeds - ground up and just swallowed - the taste is now unbearable and the nausea was there but managable - but intense - managable because of some nausea tablets and a herb that is commonly smoked for the relief of nausea. swim finds it to be more of a visionary substance than a hallucinogen, oev's are always very visible but its not the main factor, swim finds the best way to utilize this tool is to be still and silent in the darkness with ones eyes closed, visions appear and if the mind is kept still the evolution of those visions is great, swim actually ranks mg seeds very highly up there but does not utilize them often as they are fairly taxing.

I should have made this a poll. Man...it's too late now.

SWIM has some Rivea corymbosa that he got as a free sample with one of his orders. He's likely to try this next.

What would the dosage be for these and how do they compare with HBWR?

Aww SWIM bought some recently but only got 70! And it wasn't even the smallest amount available. Hopefully he's a lightweight!

Just HOW sick do these three types of seeds make you? Does the toxicity cause permanent damage? Cyanide is scary stuff.
SWIM has only ingested as extract to date (apart from one HBW snorting experiment!).

Hell yeah!

First time if you just eat them nausea will be great if you step them in water(as little as possible) and strain and drink nausea will be manageable but still.
Any other time the smell an taste of macerate(extract)will make you gag. The water taste somewhat greasy and it`s just horrible
After several dozens ipomoea trips ILPT can`t stand the taste of seeds anymore and when he just see the macerate it makes him gag.
He has to stick to hbwr now
Advantage of HBWR seeds is that one need max. 10-12 seeds so minimum water can be used and seeds don`t bring they specific greasy taste into macerate as ipomoea does.

if we could only develop some nice tek for ipomoea, esp. get rid of the greasy taste and concentrate the actives if not isolate LSA and leve bloody ergotoxine behind
What do you think burnt?

Ololiuqui (Rivea corymbosa) are the best.