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SWIM cant find LYE in the WEST us...
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sodium carb is too weak for raising ph . NaOH would be the best for STB all my posts are random generated and can not be evaluated as distinct ideas Evening Glory wrote:This is a medicine, remember, not some video you can watch inside your head.
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Yes sodium bicarbonate is not strong enough. SWIM prefers calcium hydroxide over NaOH for STB. It's MUCH SAFER and very effective. NaOH is very dangerous and in some locations a purchase of it can get you reported to the police. SWIM never uses it anymore. But for an STB based on calcium hydroxide (lime) you need a semi "dry" tech for it to work properly. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
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how bout roasting ur bicarb in the oven to produce sodium carbonate - wouldnt that be suitable for stb ? antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
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By heating sodium bicarbonate, sodium carbonate is made. And yes, sodium carbonate will work. Apparently some say it doesn't work well for mimosa though. I know it works great with chaliponga and chacruna. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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69ron wrote:Yes sodium bicarbonate is not strong enough. SWIM prefers calcium hydroxide over NaOH for STB. It's MUCH SAFER and very effective. NaOH is very dangerous and in some locations a purchase of it can get you reported to the police. SWIM never uses it anymore. But for an STB based on calcium hydroxide (lime) you need a semi "dry" tech for it to work properly. Now that you mentioned it, I've been experimenting with lime for a few days, with mixed results. I tried it with a hot ~10% lime milk and naphta, with a very pure product but too low a yield at first sight. But not a hint of yellow! Whatever the end result, I don't think I'll do a lye extraction again - if I had to choose between dipping my finger in hot concentrated lye or battery acid I'd pick the latter  Yes, the bicarbonate is much too weak, but sodium carbonate or lime might work better. Or here´s a crazy idea: sodium silicate, it´s a strong base and cheap.
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OverDosedLiving wrote:SWIM cant find LYE in the WEST us... SWIY should check SOAP making supply shops. You want to make a hot soap bath. SWIM suggests getting some oil with it to further the illusion and/or actually making some soap. You need very little lye for soap making or anything else for that matter and they usually sell by the 1-5 lb. The cold process of soap making takes weeks/months. Buying Lye is not illegal. All illegal narcotics are medicinal. Boredom is a disease worse than cancer. Drugs cure it, with little or no side effects if used as directed - Doug Stanhope.
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Long story short, SWIM tried baking "baking soda" once and using it with sad results. The only thing he has to add is, he may not have used enough. ...
Anything posted on here is relayed fables from a friend of a friend
who does not own a computer. Since SWIM cannot type these up himself,
I reiterate his fictional ramblings word for word to be a nice guy.
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69ron wrote:Yes sodium bicarbonate is not strong enough. SWIM prefers calcium hydroxide over NaOH for STB. It's MUCH SAFER and very effective. NaOH is very dangerous and in some locations a purchase of it can get you reported to the police. SWIM never uses it anymore. But for an STB based on calcium hydroxide (lime) you need a semi "dry" tech for it to work properly. Which "dry" tek do you recommend? SWIM would love to make use of the giant bag of calcium hydroxide, rather than draw attention to another purchase of or even deal with lye ever again.
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NaOH Lye is freely available at small(er) hardware stores like ACE (in West US). It's sold as drain opener ~$5 per lb. See image attached. Why would a cashier in a store report a customer trying to unclog his drain?.. MDMM attached the following image(s):  lye.jpg (11kb) downloaded 167 time(s).
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69ron wrote:By heating sodium bicarbonate, sodium carbonate is made. And yes, sodium carbonate will work. Apparently some say it doesn't work well for mimosa though. I know it works great with chaliponga and chacruna. ..wow..I thought one had to use lye when pulling with naptha..and I hate lye!.. my elf started using sodium carbonate to base after defatting with naptha and pulling the full spectrum of alks from mimosa with 99% iso for red spice..he figures this method may not be so efficient though becasue it would also pull N-oxides..good to know! Long live the unwoke.
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So would you use the same amount of Calcium Hydroxide as you would have lye in the tek? I would also be interested to know which "dry" tek youd reccomend. Step forward into your cave. That's right. You're going deeper into your cave. And you're going to find, your power animal...
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check for "KOH" or "KOH flakes" which is potassium hydroxide, from ebay. best alternative suggested for NaOH. It has ph around 13 i guess which is very close to NaOH, and probably not regulated or watched in US like naoh
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Sinewave wrote:69ron wrote:Yes sodium bicarbonate is not strong enough. SWIM prefers calcium hydroxide over NaOH for STB. It's MUCH SAFER and very effective. NaOH is very dangerous and in some locations a purchase of it can get you reported to the police. SWIM never uses it anymore. But for an STB based on calcium hydroxide (lime) you need a semi "dry" tech for it to work properly. Which "dry" tek do you recommend? SWIM would love to make use of the giant bag of calcium hydroxide, rather than draw attention to another purchase of or even deal with lye ever again. One has found that simply mixing powdered MHRB with an equal amount of CaOH, adding enough water to make a loose paste, stirring periodically until dry and extracting with acetone yields a smokable, very broad spectrum extract that could be further refined in many ways. That's all just preliminary fucking around though - no hard data on yields. Carbonate would probably work just as well.
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