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Phalaris Arundinacea Juice Options
 
adam
#1 Posted : 5/29/2013 9:17:40 PM

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So I have read at least one report of someone drinking the juice from phalaris and having a psychedelic experience. So I have some phalaris grass and B. Caapi and a juicer. I want to try this but I want to know first if anyone else has tried it or if there are any safety concerns. Also any ideas on dosage?
 

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#2 Posted : 5/29/2013 9:39:06 PM

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Well that depends. As i understood there were a problem with gramine. Which could give you a head injury, or cause parkinsons etc..
Just juice it i guess?
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I have heard that juicing the grass is a methos that has been used when folks make an ayahuasca brew with it, that would GREATLY reduce your bulk ( 1 pound of grass or a cup of grass) the juice takes up alot less space, and you would be leaving behind alot of the waxes that would disolve in the vinegar/water when boiled. It's said that a tablespoon of this juice is very strong for aya mix..just a tablespoon!

I'm very interested in fiuring this out too..I'm an oregonian as well and have endless supply of both arundinacea, and aquatica. Though I have heard the wild grass isn't very concentrated. Your best bet from my experience in growing it is to transplant a bunch of it into flats pr long planters where you can closely control the levels of water and nutrients. I have grown the 'turkey red' strain of arundinacea and stressed it 3 times by letting the pots dry up till the tips of the grass starts to dry out, then some time in the shade with a good dose of fertilizer (mabey these steps would be better reversed? fertilize before stressing??)
I have grown some grass that gets alot of blood red patches and streaks, VERY BEAUTIFULL!! and VERY VERY potent indeed!!
I've been trying to find this srain again for some time with no luck at all..it used to be really easy to find..I'm quite dissapointed that I lost that plant!
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adam
#3 Posted : 5/29/2013 10:07:34 PM

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I wonder about juicing and then brewing with some water if some of the gramine and other undesirables would stay in the plant matter.

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So I read on here that gramine is not water soluble, so maybe juice and then boil and filter a few times?

Some experimenting is in order.
 
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#4 Posted : 5/29/2013 10:55:59 PM

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gramine is not the chemical responsible for sheep staggers.

it is HIGHLY recommended you only consume phalaris extract (i.e. pharmahuasca).

the only way to be safe (in regards to staggers - but incidentally it covers gramine and presumably hordenine as well) is to pull with a non-polar solvent.
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