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Dot5841
#1 Posted : 4/8/2009 5:07:42 PM
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I am looking for a learning experience with psychedelics, however right now the strongest thing available to me is Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms. I have done about 2 grams of these shrooms. How much would it take to get a full experience out of it? I think I am ready to take higher amounts since last time I did shrooms it felt like it wasnt enough or like I had almost done enough and it was a sad feeling almost.
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#2 Posted : 4/8/2009 5:33:10 PM

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no one can really tell you as potency varies widely not only species to species but shroom to shroom.... if you felt comfortable with 2 try 3.5-4 its not going to kill you just remember that it wont hurt you at all and WILL GO AWAY... besides that stay positive dont let it even start to feel bad keep a smile on your face and in your mind and youll be fine

when your ready for it try a dose of syrian rue (2 grams or so prepared in which ever way suits you... ground up in capsules, brewed in tea, purified alkaloids extracted) just remember to try a lower dose of shrooms say 1.5-2 it potentiates em pretty good

oh and try smoking some dmt on the peak i have heard really good things about that Very happy
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Dot5841
#3 Posted : 4/8/2009 6:55:42 PM
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ya i was thinking about 3.5 grams before so ill go with that. During all of my trips its been easy to stay positive and happy. what i meant to say was when i was coming down i wished i had done more, probably because Ive done this same 2 gram dose a few times now. Also how should I prepare it? Ive read about the tea, but since Ive never gotten sick by mushrooms would this increase/decrease potency? I can only get dried mushrooms if that makes a difference.
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#4 Posted : 4/8/2009 7:16:21 PM

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If SWIY doesn't get sick simply eat them. That way there is 0 potential loss of potency.

As far as doses, I think of it like this,

2g- the door is there, but you don't know it

3.5g- You see the door

5+g- You go through the door

either way you're bound to learn/realize something Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 4/8/2009 11:17:41 PM

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Dot5841 wrote:
ya i was thinking about 3.5 grams before so ill go with that. During all of my trips its been easy to stay positive and happy. what i meant to say was when i was coming down i wished i had done more, probably because Ive done this same 2 gram dose a few times now. Also how should I prepare it? Ive read about the tea, but since Ive never gotten sick by mushrooms would this increase/decrease potency? I can only get dried mushrooms if that makes a difference.


If you don't have the availibility of a MAOI tea, or something of that nature. For a last resort I slightly reccomened something like Nitrous Oxide (aka whip its). Its really isn't harmful at all, and is completely safe as long you don't completely deprive yourself of oxygen. But the key point with this is, it has to be nitrous oxide. Nothing else. Anything besides Nitrous Oxide, can probably kill you, or give your body some serious damage.

Mushrooms are by far, probably the best beginning, and all around psychedelic. They're soft, fun, and playful at smaller doses. But, they can be one of the most potent psychedelics as well in higher doses.

I would say, if you only have just 2 grams availible for right now. Definantly potentiate that, and then next time you get more, do 3.5. Don't rush it, have fun and stay positive.Laughing

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#6 Posted : 4/8/2009 11:43:09 PM
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Two or three canisters of nitrous oxide can be an interesting experience during a mushroom trip, but don't go overboard. It tends to shut down higher mental processes and cause drowsiness (at least for me).
 
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#7 Posted : 4/9/2009 12:10:41 AM

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ChemEng wrote:
Two or three canisters of nitrous oxide can be an interesting experience during a mushroom trip, but don't go overboard. It tends to shut down higher mental processes and cause drowsiness (at least for me).


That is true.
So glad to see you have overcome them.
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With heaven's help
You cast your demons out

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Dot5841
#8 Posted : 4/9/2009 5:28:29 AM
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Thanks for the ideas! Im not so sure about the nitrous oxide because I haven't looked into it but I have been reading about a lemon tek that is on the Shroomery.----> The Shroomery It looks like it works pretty well. I can get any amount of shrooms and would be able to do various extractions but I am wondering one thing. If I were able to get 3.5g+ would I want to take that normally and experience my first strong trip, or should I potentate a lower dose to reach the same effects?
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#9 Posted : 4/9/2009 6:25:16 AM

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Dot5841 wrote:
Thanks for the ideas! Im not so sure about the nitrous oxide because I haven't looked into it but I have been reading about a lemon tek that is on the Shroomery.----> The Shroomery It looks like it works pretty well. I can get any amount of shrooms and would be able to do various extractions but I am wondering one thing. If I were able to get 3.5g+ would I want to take that normally and experience my first strong trip, or should I potentate a lower dose to reach the same effects?


Go for the 3.5

For sure.
So glad to see you have overcome them.
Completely silent now
With heaven's help
You cast your demons out

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#10 Posted : 4/9/2009 5:43:51 PM

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Have as many as you can eat. Just remember to have a controlled environment and if things start to get sketchy just commit to the moment.

The difference between a messy experience and a spiritual awakening is commitment.

I used to try and evade intense moments by distracting myself with something. Can't be done, as it will catch up with you. Just be prepared for it and commit before it gets the better of you.

But seriously .5 gram increments and watch your diet.

Maybe try starting off with a dose you are comfortable with and then re-dosing once you feel comfortable with the experience.

But this aint kids play Smile
 
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#11 Posted : 4/9/2009 5:49:11 PM

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soulfood wrote:

But seriously .5 gram increments and watch your diet.

Maybe try starting off with a dose you are comfortable with and then re-dosing once you feel comfortable with the experience.

But this aint kids play Smile



i second this advice (good lookin out)
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#12 Posted : 4/9/2009 7:01:39 PM

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How I miss shrooms. They are wonderful teachers. The gentle and mystical flesh of the earth.
You lock the door, and throw away the key

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#13 Posted : 4/10/2009 5:39:56 AM
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boomers are the strongest thing available?, you say that like they are week haha. Mushrooms can be and are mighty strong. They are great fun and can be a beautiful teacher with experiences that can rival the other psychedelic tryptamines. next time try a bit more Smile great fun.

whippets on the other hand are wayy too intense for me. not again for me por favor...

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#14 Posted : 4/15/2009 5:22:43 PM

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I have had a lot of mushrooms doses in my short life and I have learned more is better. LIke someone said early anything under 3.5 lets you know that something is there but you don't get the full experience. If you would like a learning experience and you believe you are ready for it I would do at least a quarter. 7 grams is my typical teacher trip. I have also gone as high as 10 grams.

My most meaningful trip was 6 grams of potent cubensis with 3.5 grams of syrian rue. I did not mean to take so many mushrooms, but something was up with my scale. I feel like the best ones to learn from are the ones that push you over the edge. I don't believe in good or bad trips, but it seems like the difficult ones are the best to learn from. But they also take more time to integrate into real life and make sense of.

The main thing to remember is you can't die from mushrooms. You may think you are dying or even believe that you have died or may even forget that there is life other than the moment you are in.

Be safe and have fun.
 
 
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