for the sake of prosperity...
has any one tried a STB extraction of Desmanthus I or L?
SWIm tends to think that this plant in the maybe not so near future will be a great ally to a great number of people... if this plant can be grown as well in the northern hemisphere it will make the process of production much less expensive...at any rate trouts notes on the subject are quie convincing...
any ne tried a STB with this one?

http://www.ethnogarden.c...desmanthus-illinois.html

Desmanthus spp are a waste of time. SWIM has yet to hear from someone who got good results from this root. The internet-reported myth yield of 0.3% from desmanthus root is more like 0.003%.

So that means there isn't aan easy to grow plant in the northern hemisphere....?

Surely nothing as good as the most commonly used ones. SWIM flirted with desmantus but he got dumped form the first date. SWIM then started dating with phalaris canariensis, he soon found out she was without any inner qualities that would make her any interesting. SWIM is now fighting to get a joint date with p.aquatica and her second cousin p.brachystachys, he' s heard rumours they are pretty good at bed.

But surely never as good as mimosa or psychotria.

well i wouldnt think they would be as good as those...
but how about demanthus lepiotta? spelling?
trout is no hack and seems to think that that particular strain of demanthus is worth the work that goes into it... btu SWIM has never heard of any others doing any extraction with that one...