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#1 Posted : 4/17/2013 7:45:43 PM

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http://digitaljournal.com/article/324779

Fear them.

Everybody toss your Gravol right now. It might empty your bank account.


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Heres the documentary exclusive. Seems legitimate.
http://www.youtube.com/w...dded&v=ToQ8PWYnu04#!
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#2 Posted : 4/19/2013 3:15:54 AM

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Have you done scopolamine?
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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#3 Posted : 4/19/2013 10:42:01 PM

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I haven't consumed the particular plant they talk about.

i've consumed small amounts of datura inoxia seeds (Which contain both scopolamine and atropine) for its nausea reducing, and mildly sedative effects. They were especially useful when ingesting LSA to counteract the negative effects associated.

My cynicism in the OP reflects the 'fear mongering' attitude surrounding the drug itself and not the people handling it.
Expect nothing, Receive everything.
"Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). "
He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita
"The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
 
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#4 Posted : 4/19/2013 11:50:35 PM

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Looks pretty scary, I never knew scopolamine was capable of this but it makes sense, considering it is anti-cholinergic. Since acetylcholine is responsible for memory formation and storage.

I must say though I hate the angle of it.
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#5 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:57:16 AM

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this is nothing new..tropane bearing plants have always been used this way even in old world europe. Prostitutes would dose people with them and rob them etc..they were used to poison people..to others they were sacred intoxicants. Pretty useful plants I guess as long as you are not an idiot.
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#6 Posted : 4/20/2013 3:21:01 AM

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DeDao wrote:
Have you done scopolamine?


I have.
do i fear it? nope.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
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#7 Posted : 4/20/2013 3:59:17 AM

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You did pureish scopolamine Benzyme?
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#8 Posted : 4/20/2013 4:33:33 AM

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no, not that it really matters. the plant-derived tropane alks (which are mostly atropine and scopolamine) are all antagonists of ACh, no agonism.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
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#9 Posted : 4/22/2013 1:44:03 AM

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Done scopolamine hydrobromide once or twice many moons ago. Interesting hallucinations, talking to people who weren't there, eating and drinking things that didn't exist.

Not one for the faint hearted tho at the time everything seemed as real as normality.
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#10 Posted : 4/22/2013 1:53:18 AM

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Wow, that's so bizarre. I couldn't imagine hallucinating like that. Scares the crap outta me. ^^ Wut?
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"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
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#11 Posted : 4/22/2013 2:19:20 AM
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Snopes wrote:
Burundanga
Claim: Criminals in the U.S. are using burundanga-soaked business cards to incapacitate their victims.

FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/burundanga.asp

 
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#12 Posted : 4/22/2013 2:49:15 AM

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Like benzyme said ACh receptors (acetylcholine), specifically the muscarinic receptors are in some ways are responsible for decision making in the brain.

No agonism. No response.
Expect nothing, Receive everything.
"Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). "
He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita
"The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
 
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#13 Posted : 4/22/2013 3:00:50 AM

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I had terrible nightmares after reading this last night, plant spirits were telling me they created scopolamine as a warning and the spirit of it was like wednesday from addams family, like the problem child. The spirit of mimosa and other plants were saying yeah her bad child! this was after me and my friend were in a bar and he was saying hey ive got some scopolamine want to snort some, I said no thats dangerous stuff Surprised

Ive been reading a few datura reports after someone posted a trip report here recently. I really enjoy these terror trip reports its no no no how could things get any worse and they do by ending up in hospital seeing all sorts of terrible things fighting for life, exciting tales! Bit of light reading before bed eh Twisted Evil
 
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#14 Posted : 4/22/2013 11:07:10 PM

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^^ ya the tales are cool n all yet this is supposed to fry an omlette forever which is not that cool ,
illusions !, there are no illusions
there is only that which is the truth
 
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#15 Posted : 4/23/2013 5:33:13 PM
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Me and a wreckless friend once drank tea steeped from 2 brugmansia flowers. For me the effects weren't all too
pronounced, but defenitely present. I can only describe the main effects to entail a feeling of dispair, hopelessness,
impending doom & helplessness. Not very pleasant. Humbling, but not in a positive, psycho-educational way as the kind
of humbleness many Psychedelics induce.

My friend was outright terrified. This usually tough black-metal head turned into a scared child when I turned
off the lights yelling me to turn them back on. Appearantly he saw all sorts of gnarly faces comming through the
walls and at him. I thought this was well amusing, both the increase of visuals in the dark & my friend's
hysterical fear of the dark, but I was empathic enough to switch the lights back on quickly. Razz

Not that night, but the very next night, I had an amazingly terrifying dream which unmistakably featured
Datura. In the dream I walked on a red carpet on some outdoor parking lot terrain. Next to the red carpet
sat an old lady in a burlap, hooded cloak. Behind her was a yellow scorpion, the particulairly poisonous kind,
walking back and forth. I stopped to tell her "Lady, your Scorpion is roaming freely" being concerned she didn't
know and that it may have escaped. She just stared at me with iris-less eyes, filled with a gloomy, pale yellow
light. I kneeled down to her level to look her in the face. Suddenly I felt hexed by a warm feeling she radiated.
A Motherly, even grandmotherly charm filled me and I felt compelled to lay down in her lap.

As I did I felt I had made a fatal mistake. The Motherly charm instantly turned to a viscious, murderous predator.
I was firmly locked into her lap and felt the inhuman strength of her 2 hands around my wrists. Trying to get loose
was pointless, is how strong her grip was. It extended from physical grip into my soul, gripping the very essence of
my being tightly, infusing me with fear, helplessness & stupification. Slowly I saw that the inside of her hood, behind her head, began to glow with a yellow light as, very gradually, the legs of a horrificly huge spider began to crawl out of the hood, towards me. I was certain that soon I would feel 2 horribly hard & strong jaws inject me
with a horrendous poison as I suddenly woke up.

Lady Datura hates me. And I'll gladly admit the feeling is mutual.
But I was using it as a sensation-seeking fool at that time. Surely
that stupendous, impure intention played a part in my harsh treatment.

Whatever good may come of proper use with pure intentions, it could never be worth
the risk of being schizophrenic, lobotomised or dead. For spiritual healing/education
I'll try my luck with other plant-teachers. Datura is just too merciless for me & I'm
still guessing wether anything valuable can be learned from "proper" Datura use.

Knowledge is valuable, but Life is invaluable.
Life is that which makes the quest for Knowledge, and everything else, possible.
Life is the foundation. For me this seems far to precious to ever risk loosing,
even if the greatest wealth of Knowledge could be attained by doing so.
Nothing is more valuable than life itself so don't gamble with it, for anything.

That last bit kind of sums up my reasons to stay far away from Scopolamine and similair chemicals.
The dream was a great motivational factor too. Smile
 
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As they say in the documentary, it has been known for half a century or more. Why would they make a viral video to advertise the benefits to known criminals? I seriously don't understand media like this and it drives me crazy. It was a somewhat unknown drug until now.

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Most I've taken so far of a datura plant was an inoxia seed cut into 4 pieces and smoked 2hits in a bowl with some weed felt a weird high coming on so I stopped finished the bowl about a week later lol is it true though a safe MAXIMUM DOSAGE of inoxia is like 5-10 seeds? Should I have felt something off a quarter of a smoked seed or do you think it was placebo? Also how variable is Inoxia to Stramonium, probably a dumb question I know this plant is feared as one of the most variable plants in existance.
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That guy they were going through to get their scopolamine, hahah. Laughing On coke much?

Even in the name of a documentary id be too scared going there and dealing with people like that. meh
 
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