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caapi extract sublingually (for microdosing)? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 4/14/2013 10:48:34 PM
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I'm using caapi for microdosing. I'm working with a powdered 5x extract. Does it make sense to use it sublingually, or not in the form I have?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/15/2013 12:59:42 AM

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Let’s say the caapi from which your extract was made contained 1% alkaloids. If so, then 5X extract contains 5% alkaloids. I find a sublingual dose of 10-20mg relatively pure alkaloids sufficient for noticeable albeit light effects. To get a similar effect with 5% extract, you’d have to take a dose of 200-400mg. That’s quite a mouthful for sublingual use.
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#3 Posted : 4/15/2013 1:18:18 AM

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Caapi's alakloid profile must be a lot weaker than rue. 20mg of rue alkaloids sublingual would be quite strong for me..have you tried caapi and rue alks both sublingual to compare? I want to extract some caapi but have never gotten around to it yet.
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jamie wrote:
Caapi's alakloid profile must be a lot weaker than rue. 20mg of rue alkaloids sublingual would be quite strong for me..have you tried caapi and rue alks both sublingual to compare? I want to extract some caapi but have never gotten around to it yet.


Really? Man you gotta extract some cappi. It's almost like a different drug in my experience. Much much weaker than rue, but also a different vibe as well. I prefer cappi, but I have so much rue that I mostly just drink caapi now.

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#5 Posted : 4/15/2013 2:20:48 AM

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joedirt wrote:
jamie wrote:
Caapi's alakloid profile must be a lot weaker than rue. 20mg of rue alkaloids sublingual would be quite strong for me..have you tried caapi and rue alks both sublingual to compare? I want to extract some caapi but have never gotten around to it yet.


Really? Man you gotta extract some cappi. It's almost like a different drug in my experience. Much much weaker than rue, but also a different vibe as well. I prefer cappi, but I have so much rue that I mostly just drink caapi now.


I wouldn’t say that caapi alkaloids are “much, much” weaker than rue, but there is a difference. Maybe it’s the larger amount of harmaline in rue?

I also wouldn’t call 20mg of either “quite strong”. Noticeable effects for sure – a sense of calmness, a shift – but nothing like a 200mg oral dose for example.

I much prefer caapi extracted alkaloids over rue – I find that rue extracted alkaloids have a somewhat “toxic” feel to them that caapi doesn’t have.
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joedirt wrote:
jamie wrote:
Caapi's alakloid profile must be a lot weaker than rue. 20mg of rue alkaloids sublingual would be quite strong for me..have you tried caapi and rue alks both sublingual to compare? I want to extract some caapi but have never gotten around to it yet.


Really? Man you gotta extract some cappi. It's almost like a different drug in my experience. Much much weaker than rue, but also a different vibe as well. I prefer cappi, but I have so much rue that I mostly just drink caapi now.



I have drunk tons of caapi just never extracted it. I dont find caapi and rue that different though. The differences are there but minor for me.
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#7 Posted : 4/15/2013 2:26:43 AM

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