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A while ago i had 3 grams of some not entirely pure yellowish DMT i got for free. I tried various methods of administring this substance since i dont have a crack pipe. The method that worked best for me was mixing the DMT with a cigarette in a plastic bag and heating it up for a minute under a laptop battery, so that it melts together, then i put it in a freezer for about an hour until it became solid. Then i chopped it up and mixed it with a gram of cannabis, heated it up a little so that everything became one and let it dry for about a day. Now i had some kind of wannabe-changa that works and burns 10 times better when smoking through a bong and you can even roll doobies with this. Anyways, i decided to give away almost everything since i wanted my friends to experience this rare experience aswell and they have thanked me for sharing and so did my heart. I could only experience the introduction until i started mixing with it no matter wich smoking method i used. Now it became possible to fully break through by holding in atleast 5 major hits. I have only broken through once and i am sure that there are deeper levels of breaking through but this is what happened for me. I was hitting the bong like 4 times and i was listening to the ringing when i suddenly realized that it was an actual telepathic language asking me, are you ready to die? after thinking about it for a while, i took a huge hit out of curiosity and fell back watching an endless loop of sacred geometry with my eyes closed. And then there was this explosion coming from the center of my skull that blew away every wall around it and i was like nooo, i dont want to leave my mother, father, sister, brother and everything else that i care for. I got calmed down by some kind of crackling insect that explained how it is everyone and everything. Everything that it knows is everything that exists, reality is like a program that it has created from nothing to experience itself and forget that it is everything. Its like looking inwards and finding out the connection between your eyes and the all seeing eye that every eye in the world is connected to. I was not ready to go deeper than this because i was scared of being reborn and starting over as a child. I have struggled to come this far out and i want to continue evolving from where i am. Does anyone know what happens if one chooses to go all-in?
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I would say that it depends on who you are and where you are in your life, the only way to know for yourself is to take the plunge... Not being nasty but paragraphs are kind of essential when writing something longish like you did as I struggled to read it. You may find this interesting http://www.wedietorememb...at_We_Live_to_Forget.pdfHappy travels.
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kingkingking wrote: I got calmed down by some kind of crackling insect that explained how it is everyone and everything. Everything that it knows is everything that exists, reality is like a program that it has created from nothing to experience itself and forget that it is everything. Its like looking inwards and finding out the connection between your eyes and the all seeing eye that every eye in the world is connected to. The godhead sometimes presents itself as a gigantic insectoid mass (though it's just one cross-section view). It's very compartmentalized. Quote: I was not ready to go deeper than this because i was scared of being reborn and starting over as a child. I have struggled to come this far out and i want to continue evolving from where i am. Does anyone know what happens if one chooses to go all-in?
Well, you didn't die, so you're not going to be reborn, at least not in the literal sense. It may be more helpful for you to think of your death-rebirth imagery on as many symbolic levels as you can, other than the death of the physical body. So what happens if you decide to go all in? None of us can say. The mystery that is DMT is just simply too big and unpredictable to make many rational predictions of what might happen without simply doing it to find out, but some of the possibilities include a more intense and grand version of the experience you've had (it can always get more intense and bigger no matter how big you think your breakthrough might be at the time). Another possibility is that the kind of breakthrough you had is that (and I mean in no way to discount this breakthrough you've had as "special" ) DMT has reserved sometimes a certain class of breakthroughs for which the only word I can come up with is 'special'. The experience you've had is a unifying mystical experience and is held in the highest regards by some, and indeed that can be a very important and life-changing experience in its own right, but any number of things may have happened from being revealed sacred knowledge, being shown precious places/things/entities, experiencing the feminine side to the DMT experience with its loving, motherly Goddess energy, etc...And on the other side of things, pushing it too far could also invoke much more negative experiences too. Perhaps you got lucky and hit a sweet spot for you, and further may have brought about less pleasant company. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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BillyB wrote:I would say that it depends on who you are and where you are in your life, the only way to know for yourself is to take the plunge... Not being nasty but paragraphs are kind of essential when writing something longish like you did as I struggled to read it. You may find this interesting http://www.wedietorememb...at_We_Live_to_Forget.pdfHappy travels. Thanks for that link - brilliant !
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I read what i wrote in about 30 seconds, it could of been a longer version with more details about reality changing into an alien enviroment where fractals are infinite and everything is abstract but its hard to explain the experience with words. Happy travels to you aswell. Global wrote:Well, you didn't die, so you're not going to be reborn, at least not in the literal sense. It may be more helpful for you to think of your death-rebirth imagery on as many symbolic levels as you can, other than the death of the physical body. So what happens if you decide to go all in? None of us can say. The mystery that is DMT is just simply too big and unpredictable to make many rational predictions of what might happen without simply doing it to find out, but some of the possibilities include a more intense and grand version of the experience you've had (it can always get more intense and bigger no matter how big you think your breakthrough might be at the time). Sounds risky to me, i might of been given the option to start something new but i was afraid since i dont know what it is. Global wrote:Another possibility is that the kind of breakthrough you had is that (and I mean in no way to discount this breakthrough you've had as "special" ) DMT has reserved sometimes a certain class of breakthroughs for which the only word I can come up with is 'special'. The experience you've had is a unifying mystical experience and is held in the highest regards by some, and indeed that can be a very important and life-changing experience in its own right, but any number of things may have happened from being revealed sacred knowledge, being shown precious places/things/entities, experiencing the feminine side to the DMT experience with its loving, motherly Goddess energy, etc...And on the other side of things, pushing it too far could also invoke much more negative experiences too. Perhaps you got lucky and hit a sweet spot for you, and further may have brought about less pleasant company. Global, you sure do know what you are talking about. I have actully experienced the feminine side and it felt like it was my mother. Me and a friend of mine have both seen a woman in a mayan circle when we smoked on 21 december 2012, and it felt like there was a feminine spirit in the room heating up my heart. On the other side, i have been portrayed as a junkie from a third perspective when trying to break through with force.
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Once, when i smoked it outside in nature i saw 2 insects infront of me flying back and forth in a straight line but in a opposite direction of each other. They did that for a few minutes as if they were trying to communicate with me or something.
Is there a explenation for this?
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kingkingking wrote:Once, when i smoked it outside in nature i saw 2 insects infront of me flying back and forth in a straight line but in a opposite direction of each other. They did that for a few minutes as if they were trying to communicate with me or something.
Is there a explenation for this? Sarcasm? Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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Nirvikalpa Samadhi, look it up. When you go all-in, everything disappears. Even the canvas on which everything is displayed. Then it will come back and you will forget everything you have ever known and have to learn from scratch. Global wrote:The godhead sometimes presents itself as a gigantic insectoid mass (though it's just one cross-section view). It's very compartmentalized.
Sometimes as an infinite noodly creature whose noodly tendrils are of the nature of divine light kingkingking wrote:Once, when i smoked it outside in nature i saw 2 insects infront of me flying back and forth in a straight line but in a opposite direction of each other. They did that for a few minutes as if they were trying to communicate with me or something.
Is there a explenation for this? The self is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of its light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- The self guides to its light whom it pleases, and the self sets forth parables for men, and the self is cognizant of all things.
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kingkingking wrote:
I have actully experienced the feminine side and it felt like it was my mother. Me and a friend of mine have both seen a woman in a mayan circle when we smoked on 21 december 2012, and it felt like there was a feminine spirit in the room heating up my heart.
That made me smile The motherly Goddess energy I've experienced also seemed to be working on my heart. It was like the most loving, peaceful, motherly, adorable feeling right at my heart. You seemed to have had the added bonus of a shared, ancient, context-appropriate experience which is just awesome "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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I don't know what happens when you go "all-in", but I can tell you that I have had similar experiences where I realize the same things you did.. Isn't it weird how everyone comes back ranting and raving about the same message? "Think more than you speak" "How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations" "You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available." "To see God, you have to have met the Devil." "When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru." " One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
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DeDao wrote:Isn't it weird how everyone comes back ranting and raving about the same message? To play devils advocate for a second, maybe everyone comes back raving the same message because thats what happens when the brain is stimulated in certain ways INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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Then tell me why that was programmed into us? *waits for an answer* "Think more than you speak" "How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations" "You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available." "To see God, you have to have met the Devil." "When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru." " One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
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well maybe it wasnt programmed into us, maybe it is just the result of the emergence of intelegence in a lifeform. When the brain/mind becomes sufficiently advanced then certain paths develop and then the manipulation of the brain/mind by either spiritual practices or certain drugs lead to a certain type of experience. a guy i know (who is a very clever fella and used to work for the physics department of Oxford uni) has an idea that the emergence of spirituality/God is simply a subconscious self justification of our existence which developed in early man. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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3rdI wrote:a guy i know (who is a very clever fella and used to work for the physics department of Oxford uni) has an idea that the emergence of spirituality/God is simply a subconscious self justification of our existence which developed in early man. Justification? Sounds like he's saying it's a superstitious explanatory model. I'm not quite buying that. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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im not saying i buy it either. It may not be justification that he meant, im paraphrasing, i think it was more like an idea that emerges along with intelegence which helps to explain how we came to be at the point we are at, at a time when we didnt have the ability/knowledge to explain it any other way. He is a materialist reductionist type guy and i think he would now say that science has replaced God and it can/will explain how we got here. or something like that INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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3rdI wrote:im not saying i buy it either.
It may not be justification that he meant, im paraphrasing, i think it was more like an idea that emerges along with intelegence which helps to explain how we came to be at the point we are at, at a time when we didnt have the ability/knowledge to explain it any other way. He is a materialist reductionist type guy and i think he would now say that science has replaced God and it can/will explain how we got here.
or something like that Well then that could satisfy God - the explanatory model of the universe - but it doesn't explain away God - the mystical experience - in which some of us seemingly partake via DMT. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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well how about thats just what DMT ect does? you take it and it can produces these mystical experiences. just to reiterate this isnt what i believe, im just playing devils advocate. But i do find it strange that quite often people take a horrifically strong hallucinagen and then claim that what they experience is true beyond all doubt because they experienced it, well what did youthink was gonna happen? you just took a massively powerfull drug INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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There's of course a big missing link somewhere in between a DMT molecule interfacing with the brain, and the subsequent production and perception of the actual experience. I mean in no way to imply that the experiences are true beyond all doubt, but it seems equally foolhardy to fully write them off as simple drug experiences as well. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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embracethevoid wrote:When you go all-in, everything disappears. Even the canvas on which everything is displayed. Then it will come back and you will forget everything you have ever known and have to learn from scratch. Do you mean that i would come out as a baby? Global wrote:That made me smile The motherly Goddess energy I've experienced also seemed to be working on my heart. It was like the most loving, peaceful, motherly, adorable feeling right at my heart. You seemed to have had the added bonus of a shared, ancient, context-appropriate experience which is just awesome True. DeDao wrote:Isn't it weird how everyone comes back ranting and raving about the same message? Its weird but understandable because all nature wants is for us to wake up to the fact that everything is one so that we can work together for a better tomorrow. We should not hate the thing that feeds us every day.
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Global wrote:There's of course a big missing link somewhere in between a DMT molecule interfacing with the brain, and the subsequent production and perception of the actual experience. I mean in no way to imply that the experiences are true beyond all doubt, but it seems equally foolhardy to fully write them off as simple drug experiences as well. Well this is exactly my point of view so I can't argue with you. I think he said that things like the god helmet showed that specific manipulation of the brain could produce mystical states and that even if science couldn't currently give a precise answer as to what DMT did it soon would and that eventually neuroscience would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all these experiences were just temperately pickled brain function INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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