Does DMT or other psychedelics give some lasting awareness/consciousness increases? If so which psychedelics have you experienced this with? Kind of like the same benefits with increased awareness one would get with meditation.

Thanks.

Peace.

For me, there have been long lasting changes, especially in the way i relate myself to stuff going on. It is hard to describe...new patterns of thinking, feeling...or rather experiencing. The immediate effects always wore off rather quickly and this gives a false sense of being "unchanged" imho. It's probably most beneficial to act on the messenges you have recieved and found helpful.

Yes, imo any psychedelic can give long lasting changes on your perception of the world, but DMT in particular can do it in a much more abrupt fashion, maybe even forcefully so. I've experienced long lasting changes with every known psychedelic, be it mescaline, lsd, mushrooms or DMT. Especially after doing DMT many times, the flood gates seemed to have been permanently opened and when I do other psychedelics I need much less of the actual dose, being that the experiences are usually rather intense.

AS far as long lasting changes, DMT has been the breadwinner. It has shown me that although I am paradoxically small in relation to everything else I am also, at my very core, a limitless and boundelss form of intelligent awareness that permeates every facet of known reality. I am the glass of water and pourer of that water.

Things that we think matter so much in our daily lives (outward material based) do in some sense, but not how we'd perceive them to be, for in the grand scheme of things, whether big or small, money or no money, car or no car, this or that, it all comes down to being in harmony with yourself and the reality around you and to live your life accordingly.

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Psychedelics definitely help raise my awareness and improve my outlook on life, but like they say, psychedelics don't just do the work for you. I think if one doesn't have a way of constantly integrating the lessons learned during trips(I.e. meditation), one can easily get caught up in everyday problems and distractions and completely forget what was learned.

Yes, it definitely has had a long term consciousness-enhancing effect on me. On average, when not abusing it, spacing each journey out with enough time to fully integrate each experience, I'm clearer in my thoughts, have more insight into myself, flow more easily with the world, etc.

Short answer is a yes

I'm very excited to try ayahuasca for the first time! Any tips? I was thinking of doing it in my sound-proof vocal booth.

Great thanks for all of the replies, but I think some of you may have not understood the question, being not necessarily in relation to lessons learned, but just a simple increase in lasting conscious awareness.

On another note, we/you DMT fans seem to have given a much different and better response than those at shroomery.org. They said over there that shrooms and other psychedelics don't give any lasting conscious awareness increases. So perhaps DMT is better suited for this purpose. Interesting I must say.

Peace to you all.

Psychedelics have changed me permanently. Even from the first LSD trip, I was made aware of something that I could not ever forget. Before psychedelics, life was like being in a dark room. Of course, it didn't seem dark at the time. That first LSD trip was like turning the lights on momentarily. Even after the lights slowly turned off again, I cannot forget what I experienced. What I saw has since influenced my perception of where and what I am. Even if I forgot what I saw and what it is like to see, I cannot forget what I now know as a result, even if it is only that sight is possible.

Regarding this phenomenon in relation to various types of drugs, I have found that LSD has affected me the most. This is probably because my first few long psychedelic experiences were with LSD, and I imagine that the first few experiences were the most influential simply because I did not yet know what to expect at that point. Otherwise, I would say that short-lasting psychedelics have had the least long-term effect on me. I have gotten much more out of LSD, 4-AcO-DMT, and 25I than from salvia and DMT. Then again, I have also spent a vastly larger amount of time using the longer-lasting psychedelics than I have spent using the short-lasting psychedelics (8 hours on LSD for every 15 minutes on DMT), which probably has something to do with it. I have never used Ayahuasca, but I imagine (and I have heard) that it would be more influential in the long run than smoked DMT.

Yes , definitely in my experience.
Cannabis and salvia opened some new ways of looking at things for me but the Tryptamines really got their foot in the door (primarily DMT).
My whole thought process and "reality tunnel" as Robert Anton Wilson would say has changed massively since my introduction to the Tryptamines (and in the past 2 years some more classes)
Long story short everything seems amazing and I view the world and myself with awe every day.
It can be scary at times but things are certainly a lot less black and white.

Great reply hixidom! I feel very similar to your post. LSD was my first psychedelic as well and ever since then I have felt different about my existence and the world that I percieve. Later on mushrooms and pharmahuasca made me aware of the possibility of a cosmic consciousness and a mix of LSD and syrian rue extract made me aware of the possibility of intelligences of an entirely different order.

Now concerning the original question, it's quite difficult to say what kind of effect DMT or psychedelics in general have on our awareness. It seems to be general consensus that psychedelics sometimes give mystical experiences. Mystical experiences often are life-changing or revealing in some sense that changes how we view the world around us. Even the non-mystical psychedelic experiences can have that kind of effect.

But what is it that you are asking about really - permanent effects on awareness or consciousness - what does it mean? Enlightenment? What does that mean? Psychedelics most likely won't help you to become a Jedi Knight, read minds, or see auras. They don't replace meditation, yoga or other spiritual disciplines. They alter your consciousness heavily while the effects last and subtly thereafter, just like any kind of touching/moving experience would. But what makes them different from your random "moving" experience, is that they can be produced and used deliberately, like tools, like journeys, like a spiritual practice.

At least this is what I see in them.

Yeah I'm permanently altered.

Mentally, there are no words. The psyches unlocked doorways to realms of perception which are currently ineffable. The only known terminology that comes close is "has anyone been so far even as decided to use go want to do look more like".


Physically, this happened more recently with harmala use. My physical movements are different and there is a pull towards Wu Wei (non-action or effortless action). I can't sit, stand, or walk in the ways I used to do and what's more I can't even demonstrate to people how crappy my previous postural traits were as my body refuses to go in those paths and it feels like I'm "locked" in position - by no means a restriction on freedom whatsoever I may add.

There are quite a few experience reports of people mentioning that LSD has helped or even healed their colour blindness, and DMT has cured their Chronic Fatigue Syndrome; I have heard this many times.

So on all counts, yes. However it may be important to keep in mind length scales. I've been at it for five years now. The first two years, I explored the more insane realms of the territory. Ironically if you had asked me if exploration had any lasting effect, I would have said no, it felt like it came in and out of my system and that was that.

But actually, the journeying had stirred up the Kundalini and threw me into a serious soul search for the next few years. Now, I can say that the first drop of any sacrament is something I feel still resonating in my being to this day, whether that be mother's milk or earth's spice.

When you have increased awareness but not enough awareness to be truly fully aware, you might be deceived into thinking there is no change in awareness. But you would find out later that yes, everything leaves a sharp imprint on the psyche, however subtle it may appear!

A physical aspect of your body could change permanently but consciousness is ever fluid. Every experience you have changes the way you think and perceive reality. So any experience as intense, dramatic, deep, emotional, and unique as a trip will naturally alter your consciousness in a great way. I've found that I see things more as an external factor would instead of a participating role of reality. In other words I've eliminated some of the bias being a creature has on perception.

The way I understand "lasting awareness/consciousness increases", it's hard for me to imagine anyone answering "No". That would mean you have learned nothing from the experience, or that whatever you experienced was superficial enough to overlook. No matter how mild they were, I have not had one single experience with psychedelics that did not leave some increase in my awareness.

Hixidom put it very nicely. Basically, The entheogenic experience cannot be unseen. Cannot be unfelt, undiscovered or unrealized. It stays with you, becomes part of you as any unique experience in your life. And in uniqueness, it's second to none, it's the meta-experience.

For me, in order, LSA made me aware first of what a truly altered state was like. Mushrooms made me aware that the perception of the world around me could change, that my senses could be enhanced and that there was many ways to perceive my own body.

Salvia made me aware that our consensus reality could be obliterated, and that one could visit other places.

And DMT is like consciousness wizardry. Like whispering the secret password. If psychedelics are tools, DMT is like the alien computer from a Douglas Adams novel. I am not able to figure out yet how many new things it's going to make me aware of, but there's a lot.

Do you find the new patterns beneficial? I haven't experienced dmt but I feel it may permanently change the way one thinks about and interacts with the environment around them. Possibly on a molecular level?

I've experienced changes of some sort or other with nearly every psychedelic I have tried.
hard to explain my own experience, but I can write accurately that they have helped me see the world differently, much like mediation, and perhaps this is due to something other than chemistry, it could be the experiences themselves in my case... hard to know or say.

Thanks to all you for answering my question. I still find it interesting that people at shroomery.org said that shrooms or psychedelics didn't give lasting conscious awareness increases.

I like this quote. Thanks ambracethevoid.



A real sign of awakening that pulls us toward We Wei, and our source Wu Chi.

Peace.

During my DMT trip I saw visualizations that made sense to my mind and soul, but that my brain couldn't comprehend. Since then I've accepted that there is a difference between the brain and the mind, and who knows how deep that rabbit hole of a conversation goes!

very much so.

Yes, absolutely. I think especially DMT has had a lasting effect on both my psyche and my consciousness. Ever since I had my first experience I feel like I am changed, like I understand things I previously could not grasp. Concepts that are so abstract I can't even describe them. And yet within they have become crystal clear and according to these concepts or principles that I now understand I can position my soul. I feel it is a question of posture - as a previous poster mentioned, but to me it is more of an internal posture, something profound and close to the core of my being. DMT allows you to change this posture, to align it with things you can't understand without it. Without DMT this posture becomes rigid, because we are not aware of it.

DMT is transformation.