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#1 Posted : 3/1/2013 5:24:50 PM

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Please don't misunderstand me. I abhor violence. But I do believe that a pure warrior heart stems from a beautiful archetype. Ultimately a true warrior spreads peace and wisdom by conquering the self and not others.

I'm curious to know if there are any such fighters out there who've taken a stand when faced with dark entities? I myself have not been confronted with such an experience, but I try to stand firm and face my fears when they arise occasionally (both when sober and when tripping on the milder psychedelics).

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#2 Posted : 3/1/2013 7:18:59 PM

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I've experienced the head on collision of two conflicting, massively immense entities.
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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Global wrote:
I've experienced the head on collision of two conflicting, massively immense entities.

That's really interesting...I too had an experience that I described while coming down as, "Two deities fighting." They were massive and we were in some massive "indoor" space that felt like the planetary assembling facility described in HHGTG.
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#4 Posted : 3/1/2013 10:56:27 PM

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SnozzleBerry wrote:
Global wrote:
I've experienced the head on collision of two conflicting, massively immense entities.

That's really interesting...I too had an experience that I described while coming down as, "Two deities fighting." They were massive and we were in some massive "indoor" space that felt like the planetary assembling facility described in HHGTG.


Fascinating... you guys feel any strong emotional response at the time (fear, awe, etc.)?

I'm really curious though, has anyone ever been attacked personally by an entity? And has anyone ever decided to take a mighty-space-marine-like stand in such a situation?
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#5 Posted : 3/2/2013 12:40:55 AM

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Khronos wrote:
SnozzleBerry wrote:
Global wrote:
I've experienced the head on collision of two conflicting, massively immense entities.

That's really interesting...I too had an experience that I described while coming down as, "Two deities fighting." They were massive and we were in some massive "indoor" space that felt like the planetary assembling facility described in HHGTG.


Fascinating... you guys feel any strong emotional response at the time (fear, awe, etc.)?

I'm really curious though, has anyone ever been attacked personally by an entity? And has anyone ever decided to take a mighty-space-marine-like stand in such a situation?


...and step in the way of that madness? No thank you. I'm just glad they're handling each other!
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#6 Posted : 3/2/2013 1:39:17 AM

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Khronos wrote:

I'm really curious though, has anyone ever been attacked personally by an entity? And has anyone ever decided to take a mighty-space-marine-like stand in such a situation?

I was forced to do this a few times in the early days of my exploration. I'm not a violent person, I'm actually a very passive, submissive type. But at the time I didn't just think, I felt I KNEW that if I surrendered to the entity that I would die or be trapped forever or some other terrible fate.

It's never happened with DMT. It happened twice with Salvia and once with mushrooms. Every time it was as if I was standing up to a bully. They backed off. Smile

I have also witnessed entities clashing as well. I found that to be almost more frightening because of the immense power that I could feel when they met.

I've always been one to face my fears as well. One of the only good things my father taught me Smile
 
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#7 Posted : 3/2/2013 9:48:47 AM

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Awesome guys. I find these archetypes very empowering. I can imagine that in standing up to a bully entity, or in witnessing the clash of Titans, one has an opportunity to draw a lot of personal power out of the experience for use in consensus reality.
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#8 Posted : 3/2/2013 10:36:15 AM

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Several times, mostly in the past. One time I had to climb a metaphorical mountain (kind of hard to explain what the metaphor meant), but you could see it as facing many fears in a very short amount of time. And once they are gone, you feel a lot lighter, instead of having to suffer from them for ages to come. And I was up to the task, but there were thousands if not millions (numbers were kind of meaningless) of souls attracted to me who needed my guidance in climbing the mountain. During this journey their fears maximized before they could be removed, and it was all projected onto me, so I had to cleanse out of me this unimaginable amount of fears, which manifested in all kinds of forms. Physically it was possible to feel pain and illness, mentally all kinds of thoughts you do not want to have, thoughts that feel like they aren't really yours. Emotionally just a huge rollercoaster. I didn't write anything about this because I really don't know how to explain it and the explanation so far doesn't even come close to the experience.

In the end I made it through and it felt like a real miracle and heroic work. It really showed how powerful and enduring this warrior energy can be at dealing with fear in all kinds of forms. It was intense, but no matter what you can never truly be 'defeated', there always stays a core part of you untouched, and this is how you can make it through. Persistence. And I always was a persistent person with very little fears, but after this I'm no longer afraid of anything.
 
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#9 Posted : 3/2/2013 11:49:43 AM

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Man Valura, reading that made the hairs stand up on my arms. Respect and power!
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#10 Posted : 3/2/2013 2:29:22 PM

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Valura, have you ever read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by P K Dick? There is a religion in the book called Mercerism which has a lot of similarity to what you describe.
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#11 Posted : 3/2/2013 2:52:15 PM

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Khronos wrote:
SnozzleBerry wrote:
Global wrote:
I've experienced the head on collision of two conflicting, massively immense entities.

That's really interesting...I too had an experience that I described while coming down as, "Two deities fighting." They were massive and we were in some massive "indoor" space that felt like the planetary assembling facility described in HHGTG.


Fascinating... you guys feel any strong emotional response at the time (fear, awe, etc.)?

I'm really curious though, has anyone ever been attacked personally by an entity? And has anyone ever decided to take a mighty-space-marine-like stand in such a situation?


I'd like to re-address this post after thinking it over a bit more.

In terms of feeling strong emotional responses, the answer is yes, and the variety of response is really a situation-to-situation kind of a deal. For example, one time from a couple years back I remember it was like the red side vs. the blue side. It was a situation very much akin to something you'd see in Dragon Ball Z in the sense that you have these two entities that are energetically locked in what appears to be one trying to overwhelm the other. In that case, it was a beautiful sight to be hold and seemingly relatively harmless on my part, so awe was a bit more of a factor, though I've seen many more awe-inspiring sights than that, although it was indeed immense.

On a more recent experience, I had this dark entity engaged in some kind of conflict with the godhead which typically acts as a kind of protector. The godhead has its comforting yet grand, immense, majestic, bellowing voice (which truly does invoke awe) while the dark entity was emitting these sinister musical codes (like the wizard music from Super Mario) that I've heard before. That tonal sequence is a bit scary to me cause the last time I had heard it from an entity, thing went really south. Anyway as one sort of gained predominance over the other, more of their own sound would be apparent. Eventually it was like the godhead was infected by this malignant entity getting it all dirty and stuff. This was a scary notion cause the godhead has always arrived to "save the day" as it were.

In terms of getting personally attacked by an entity, yes this happens to me. I have taken my stands. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail. One time I was being approached, and using a combination of deep breathing and focus, I essentially managed to discombobulate the geometry of the sinister entity, thus rendering it pretty harmless and evaporating the negative tension in the room. Other times I've used throat singing (which I can neither do sober nor did I know I could do until DMT spurred me to automatically do it). This singing (and the intense bodily vibrations of throat singing especially) can really rearrange and entrain the geometry of an entity. It feels very empowering. It's like stepping up to the plate and asserting dominance. This won't fly very well in the face of the whole "let it go" school of thought which I am an avid subscriber as well, but sometimes with these negative entities, they just don't care if you let go or not...in fact sometimes they can seem to be banking on just that...that you will let go. Anyway, this is a very tricky area of thought.
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#12 Posted : 3/2/2013 2:56:19 PM

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Anybody done the opposite and made peace with them?

I've not been attacked or visited by anything so I can't say.

I've had a lot of dreams where I traveled around and battled various guardians and earned various things, but it was never like they attacked me, or I them, it was more of a challenge match type thing and they were never dark or evil.
 
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#13 Posted : 3/2/2013 3:23:23 PM

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Anybody done the opposite and made peace with them?


I've tried just about every strategy in the book from "loving them unconditionally" to ignoring them to asking them polite questions, etc...they don't seem to notice

In the case of negative situations in general, letting go does seem to be the most invaluable strategy. For me, it has taken the darkest and grimmest of settings and turned them on their heads such that they flower beautifully and euphorically. Some of the entities that I encounter simply seem not to notice.
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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Have you tried magical passes and signs?
 
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#15 Posted : 3/2/2013 3:44:12 PM

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Have you tried magical passes and signs?


I haven't. You have any suggestions/examples?
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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Khronos wrote:
Please don't misunderstand me. I abhor violence. But I do believe that a pure warrior heart stems from a beautiful archetype. Ultimately a true warrior spreads peace and wisdom by conquering the self and not others.

I'm curious to know if there are any such fighters out there who've taken a stand when faced with dark entities? I myself have not been confronted with such an experience, but I try to stand firm and face my fears when they arise occasionally (both when sober and when tripping on the milder psychedelics).



My most memorable experience so far is when something sinister was attached to me and feeding off of my energy, contributing to thoughts of hate, fear, loathing, and other negative connontations.

What I did is I very sternly told this presense out loud that no negative is allowed around me or in me, only positive. What I did after that is imagined myself getting as hot and as bright as the Sun itself to literally "burn out" any negative essences from my being.

To this day, this has always worked with combating any entities with what feels like mal-intent.
"We speak of Time and Mind, which do not easily yield to catagories. We separate past and future and find that Time is an amalgam of both. We separate good and evil and find that Mind is an amalgam of both. To understand, we must grasp the whole." -Isaac Asimov

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger." -Buddha

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only I will remain." -Paul Atreides, while being tested with the Gom Jabbar by the Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
 
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No serious suggestions per say, but some occultists have written of gates and guardians that were aggressive or took no notice of someone until they performed certain signs and then were allowed to pass. This is mirrored by teachings of the Loa, found in Obeah, Voudoo and Turtle Island Shamanism, the names change but the symbols and aspects are pretty consistent.

The signs generally correspond to Mudras in Vedic and traditional Chinese teachings (as well as ninpo), sometimes there are passwords or Mantras, but I cannot address that. I can say that there are teachings in some Taoist/Chinese religions of these same gates, guardians and even spiritual armies and kings etc. Such teachings are found across the world in most ancient religions... for one reason or another.

The first major sign/mudra is Añjali.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/A%C3%B1jali_Mudr%C4%81
I would start there if I were going to try such a thing.

It is said that the names of the entities can also serve as passwords.

I don't share this as a believer or a non-believer, I am just a clueless student of the mystery itself.

Here is a poem however about the keeper of the 1st gate according to some teachings:

oh papa,
at the cross roads,
are you old,
or are you young?
with your hat
and with your cane
two snakes of the world
the waters and the stars
the winds, they are yours
the small dog is barking
master of the gate
pachamama is your wife
are you ever not near?
are you a force of nature,
or is nature a force of you?

There are also signs called veves worth looking up, your mind can form them, you can draw them with "light" or you can even use hard copies you make yourself.

I would not mess with this stuff though, it does scare me, and some of the "entities" require blood and or sacrifice.

You will notice that a lot of groups use and invoke Christ, modern ayahuasca religions for example often do. There might be a protective reason behind this. There is a story of an occultist who worked with these spirits (perhaps the same as Demons according to some) and then tried to make a woman fall in love with him and the demon told him that he could not, because she was protected by Christ and the sorcerer (Andean shaman) then converted to Christianity. This story plays a role in Andean Shamanism still.

these kind of spirits also play a role in the dance Diablada
One might keep in mind that the christian symbolism in this dance is what the anthropologists call protective coloration, or the adaptation of the symbolism of the invading and intolerant culture to allow the continuation of banned archaic practices. Saint Peter, the Virgin Mary and others in this symbolism are NOT the same as the personages or deities in Catholicism, the case here is identical to that of the Loa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa) where the same catholic symbolism is used to represent the Loa which predate Christianity.

Or perhaps this is all silly and the deities are psychological manifestations of unresolved issues that are deeply personal and incapable of being understood or dealt with in any other way.

Like I wrote: I am clueless. However:
I've seen the blood work too many times to say I think there isn't something to this.
Needless to say I don't teach my children this stuff.


 
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I' ve gone up against some pretty intense entity -like things before.
After many times being taken over while lying helpless I began to resist .

I' ve told them to f&$@ off more than a few times , there is a certain
Type of dark and aggressive energy thing that is sneaky. I do not like this thing .
It's like some kind of old hidden Bottom feeder that rises out of the depths of hyperspace
To feed on your consciousness . Chanting seems to help dissipate them . It also helps
To try not to be afraid .
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Felnik wrote:

I' ve told them to f&$@ off more than a few times , there is a certain
Type of dark and aggressive energy thing that is sneaky. I do not like this thing .
It's like some kind of old hidden Bottom feeder that rises out of the depths of hyperspace
To feed on your consciousness . Chanting seems to help dissipate them . It also helps
To try not to be afraid .


I think I know the type. Can you describe at all what it looks like? Is there a predominant color?
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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During one experience, every inch of my room transformed into small tear drop shaped "souls" or beings with humanoid faces. They all began shaking, crying, and screaming in fear as I stared at them. I had no idea what the problem was, until the wall in front of me began to slide open.

Extremely bright light shined through into my room as the wall slid open, and eventually gargoyle-like beings began walking out of the opening towards me. They were made of pure darkness and exhibited sinister grins. I was not scared at the time, but I knew I needed to get the portal shut as soon as possible to prevent any more of the beings from being able to enter my space.

I refrained from making eye contact, stared straight ahead, and focused all of my energy on closing the portal and appearing strong. I was able to get the door shut and it appeased the small humanoids that surrounded me.

As Felnik said, I think it is important to not be afraid, as it seems that the darker entities can feed off of the fear.

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