I find it amazing how you can enter hyperspace and have interactions and thoughts and concepts come to you
But id like to know what information or thoughts pop into your head immediatley after re entry

Good examples would be anything relating to philosophy, science, deep thought

Bad examples would be WHOA. Shit dude. My minds blown!
These bad examples have all happened to us at some point but lets just leave them out

Typically I am thinking about if it is even possible to try and paint or draw what I have seen. Sometimes i can give it a pretty good effort, but I have never done it justice.

I have never had any information pop into my head ever in my life, so can't relate there.
I have had some interesting thoughts about my thoughts however.

They usually have to do with insights into my psychology and why I thought or perceived what i did. It is deeply personalized and hard to explain, it is about my emotional attachments and how they manifest in the experience as my thought patterns and patterns of perception.

For me it is all mood related.

While i have never had any psychedelics give me deep thoughts, or relate to philosophy or science, I have had them provide psychological insight into the workings of my mind and emotion, as well as body. I understand myself better after coming down and pondering the experience, unless I dose very high and then i can't actually remember the experience clearly, though I can often remember my thoughts during it, which is strange i admit.

I would love to have non-personal insights from psychedelics.
Is there a way to obtain this?

Hmm. Ways to obtain non personal insights. Im not sure. Psychedelics are mysterious and often personal and the experience os gonna be different for everybody
The reason i posed this question is because i have thoughts after a experience and its weird
Often get the feeling when i have not fully blasted off that i am being taught a language and am being prepared to view extra dimensions
However when i fully blastoff i often remember the entire experience and awake with random thoughts popping in my head. Kinda like in the movie the butterfly effect after ashton kutcher returns to the future and has memories of the life he just created for himself
Some of my wilder thoughts i have had afterwards are

I was one of these transcended beings once.
Reincarnation happens
I was able to view all of the events to ever take place in my life before i chose to have this life. Almost like i chose to have these experiences to better myself
And i have lived many lives



hopefully if this is true then i hope this applies to everybody but im not sure because well. Psychedelics are often very personal
I am even having these moments of new thought popping into my head after anintense dream at night

But thats just me

I do experience a sense of "knowing" things the times I´ve been in DMTland. ..I dont really know what it is I know (maybe better described as a feeling of understanding) - though it seems to be interconnected with whatever I have been thinking/reading/discussing lately.. and could, therefore, be more of an internal seminar regarding the information I´ve been incubating.

Non personal insight could then, arguably, be obtained by doing a whole lot of incubating external, non personal, information.. theories, problems etc. ..Creative ideas usualy come to mind as an illumination/sudden insight - this is, allegedly, because the subconscious mind never stops mixing different solutions once one has internalized the variables in question. (thats why many great ideas come to us in the shower) ..If DMT, or any psychedelic, offers a more conscious insight in the works of the subconscious mind - then maybe we could, as you say, "obtain non personal information" in the sense that we are playing a more consious part in our own creative cognition. ..what do you think?

My dialoge usually goes something like this :

*looks both ways* Fuck I made it?

I can't believe it.

What was that?

*whew*

Damn I am such a horrible person and need to better myself..

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"WOW"

I feel healed. I feel like I have finally gone home. I am overwhelmed by feelings of joy and awe.

Of course there are also times when I'm just like "WTF was that?!".

I'm not sure why you would call situations where you come out "mind blown" as a bad example. My experiences have taught me that my measely ape brain is sooo ignorant compared to the vast amount of information that attempts to process through my mind during an experience.

My mind is blown almost everytime because I didn't realize it could be so beautiful. That there is so much knowledge that I can't comprehend yet while in I understand.

My last dose, first thing that went through my head was, "no... I'm god?!"

I have often thought to myself, after the fact, that I just want to have a clear conscience when I die. Just in case it is true that the brain really does get flooded w/ DMT at moment of death. I really don't want my last moment on Earth spent in a DMT eternity of hell learning a lesson I won't get the opportunity to apply. It would be much nicer to have that last moment be a DMT eternity of heaven.

Many times it is just Wow! Others it has been a sense of gratitude for having been able to experience something wonderful and mysterious and for just being alive. Like finishing a really good ski run, just the joy and pleasure of a really good ride.

Several times all I could do was laugh at the wonder of it all.

Why i said wow and mind blown was a bad example is because thats not the response i am looking for
If you answer with that then your prpbably misinterpreting the question
Im not really asking how you felt about the experience
What im asking is more of cognition
When you come out do new insights pop into your head. Not necessarily from what you just experienced but more like your sober. Back in reality andd the strange thought transfer is still going on for about a minute

You get what im asking now?

Honestly, I do not really experience it that way. I try not to intellectualize the experience. It's more like a feeling of Grace. The thoughts about it all come much later, and in retrospect.

This is only somewhat similar

God is EVERYTHING; we are divine beings

We are all One




IT felt like i was finally "home" and i have been there before;


The godhead and infinity is just Undeniable once experienced; no other way can describe it

I understand what your sayijg, I just don't agree with your understanding of it. For me the "wow" isn't a thought. It's the mind not bein able to put words to it. It's the feeling if not being able to convey anything but "wow". And I believe it istheniat common of experiences and can mean different things to different people.

It's like the universal word for the things we have no words for. And usually I just bask in the wonder of what I just experienced and relive it over and over as many times as I can. If someone is in the room with me I will often narrate the experience to them.

Although, then again I have conceptualized new ideas after words. Especially after my last dose. I also had one experience where I can to the "conclusion" about the theory of good and evil and how it seems more like a metaphor as to what goes on in our own heads. So rather, that the bibles teachings are about the battle of good and evil inside our own heads as opposed to an actual one between Angels and Demons. God and lucifer.

My cognitions about the experience aren't really easy to explain, they are mostly personal, relating to the individual associations I've been working with in the immediate time prior to an experience.


But It does seem that regardless of the associations i've been working with, the actual event is custom-fitted to work with whatever random thoughts i've been dealing with. Ultimately bringing me to nearly the same state of consciousness e.g. the experiences themselves are different but are tailored to bridge my random thoughts, to the ultimate understanding of unity/non-separation between people and objects.

It's actually funny you posted that animation because funnily enough, that about sums up the thought process for me (at times). Like a lot of times the information seems self-evident with all the logical processes bringing me 'round full circle.

Circusbob, the thing is that you ask for answers that aren't like "wow" or "oh my god", but the reality of the situation a lot of the time is that after an ego-death breakthrough, that incessant chattering train of thoughts is often subdued and replaced by pure emotions. For many, myself included a lot of the time, there aren't a lot of verbal thoughts immediately following the experience. It's like a brief moment of respite to bask in pure satisfaction like a soul reset.

To be quite honest that gif scares me, it makes me think of recurrsion and looping and I'd rather not go through that again. But my thoughts when I come back, are just trying to figure out how what I've just experienced could be even remotely possible

Everything is possible. Most things are just extremely unlikely.

If what you say is true for most people then im pretty suprised. Believe me im not trying to knock you or disprove what your saying but ive broken through the veil on several occasions and pretty much retain coherent thoughts during and immediatley after. My after thoughts are where everything seems to come together for me. In that first minute back in reality. Maybe im a freak of nature i dont know. For me theres always a wow moment but then theres other thoughts afterward that just well pop into my head

Can you perhaps give an example then of the kind of thought that goes through your head. Perhaps I'm simply overlooking or misunderstanding what you're talking about.