Hi guys, new to the board, hence the reason I'm posting in this section and not the Salvia section..

A brief about my psychedelic past, not a whole lot really - done mushrooms a few years ago and had one of the best experiences in my life, done Salivia god knows how many times and had awesome spiritual experiences until my last trip..

What I wanted to post was actually a response to the post on this forum here https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=25200 Reading about depersonalization effects from Salvia is how I actually came to finding this place as I've been experiencing it since a bad Saliva trip just under a month ago...

My bad experience on Salvia was the result of smoking the 5X stuff, I've done the 50X stuff in the past but this shit blew me away!

Every time I've stared to come up on Salvia (I've done it about 20 times) it's the same. I feel a strange sensation in my right peripheral view - like my head is moving up from the right, then I start to hear voices and get overwhelmed by some spiritual presence (I call the 'Salvia Man' lol).. Every other time it's been an amazing presence, the 'Salvia Man' reassures me I'm doing an awesome job here in my world and I come back down with an incredibly good feeling of reward and incite.

My last time however.. I came up, the only presence I could feel was an evil one, this seriously bummed be out and I started to Panic!! I tried to run from it, tried to get sober again as soon as possible trying to end the nightmare I was in. BIG MISTAKE!

Reading posts about saliva experiences leaving people with constant panic attacks and derealization all seem to have that one thing in common.. the person panicked during the trip..

During the 2-3 weeks after smoking I was a nervous wreck, I'd suffered from serveral panic attacks and was constantly shaking with a huge case of derealization. I went thought various stages - thinking I'd lost my soul to thinking I've become permanently scared of my own mind, to thinking Saliva has fucked with association points in my brain that cause panic and anxiety...

Now... After around 3 weeks I've started coming around again..

I think the main problem with cases like these are.. People have a bad trip, the get freaked out, panic, and obsess over it afterwards.

Anxiety leads to Depersonalisation/Derealization - This sensation is caused by delayed perception. While under constant stress or anxiety there is a build up of stress chemicals in your system that causes a delayed response in the transmission of information between neurotransmitter sites in your body. This slight delay between experience and thought can create a momentary sensation of unreality. The same effects are experienced under the influence of marijuana but people do not react with fear in this situation because they are aware it is the drug causing the sensation..

This leads people to thinking that their still tripping, or that the doors to their sub conscious minds haven't fully closed.. I thought it myself!

When you realize it's just a case of Depersonalization initially from the panic caused by the bad trip, constantly perpetuated by fear that Saliva's fucked your mind up for good, you start to recover - it's an extremely frighting thing to go though, but I don't regret doing Salvia that night and I think that's also key to a good recovery. It took me a while to figure out what the hell was wrong with me, but I think It's a good thing to share with anyone going though the same thing..