hello Nexus dead heads first off before i go into my experience i want to thank the forum members for possibly saving my life because boy did i not know what i was about to go into after making my last post i made my self puke up the tea i drank but the act of puking seemed to have made the high start but i think i got most of the seeds out anyways

While waiting for my friend to come pick me up and take me to the hospital i first noticed everything got like really blurry and i had trouble standing or even walking straight i would fall down and stumble knocking everything over apparently i cut my self across the leg and thigh really bad but did not realize it at the time all i can say is at this point i felt like i had been poisoned not really any colors or anything by the time my friend got to my apartment i had puked all over myself and apparently pissed on the couch
so he walked me to his truck as we were driving to the hospital which was 45 min away i can only describe as i lost control of my thoughts combined with the blurriness plus i could remember things for like 5 min but than would become very confused of what was going on i think he just thought i was drunk because we stopped at his girlfriends house who is baptist and she started to preach at me about the satan and how hes taken control of my life for drinking beer at this point i really thought thats all i had done was drink alcohol but my friend had to go to work so he drove me back and dropped me off like 2 miles from were i live because i had puked all over his truck again and he yelled at me so i guess i started walking back i must have made it because the next memory is i was in my car driving around town at this point i felt less sick but must have statred to really lose my mind because i was thinking i had to go to school even thoe i had been out of high school for a year but for some reason i thought i was still in HS anyways instead of making it to the school i wound up at the mall were my thoughts had changed to i had to bee at work at chic fil a even thoe like the thinking about HS i had been fired from that job two years before next i remebr is walking into a clothing store asking what i need to do for the shift and the lady there was calling security cus i guess i looked really fucked up

this made me really scared which seemed to induce some lucidity and i ran out there to my car all the events before this i must admit was pretty blurry but after starting my car every thing became real clear and i suddenly started to feel normal i must note it had been i would estimate about 2 hours since i first had drank the tea and maybe more
so i started driving around feeling back to normal or so i thought and i was like well that shit sucked and no visuals or nothing just made me feel sick and confused and it must have worn off now so i figured i should get somthing to eat and drink becouse i had puked every thing up .
So i went to a McDonalds ordered only a water and one french fry for some reason drove up to the window and nobody was there i started yelling thru the take out window but the place looked empty even thoe there was cars ahead of me ?
now i think this must have been when the shit really started to kick in because when i left McDonald i was having more and more trouble figuring out which was the break and which was the gas anyways as driving around cus i cant say i knew were i was going at this point i saw a small child run out in front of my car i felt the thud and everything so i stopped and got out bust there was nothing there And no houses nearby either to say the least i was really freaked out and finally got the sence togather to go home
on my way home i started to see more and more dead body's that looked like they had been torm apart everywere on the road it got so bad i hhad trouble telling what was pavement and was was body s of babbies smashed
some how i made it back to my apartment
whats was really weird was i kept thinking i had a burning stick in my hand or that i had dropped it and would spend the next i think hour or so of carrying a burning stick or trying frantically looking for the damn thing on my floor afraid i was going to burn the place down.
at this point i would say i was 5 hours into the trip
next i remember looking into the mirror and my reflection told me i was going to die this really upset me becouse now in the trip i thought i was about to really die and i mean to the point were you feel its already to late
after my reflection said that i puked into the toilet feathers and sea weed but i dont remember eating those things now the blurry and confusion started to set in and it seemed gravity had increased becouse i lay on the floor unable to move moaning and it felt like i was sitting on one of those chairs that massage and vibrate
this went on for what seemed like hours and things started to break up were like my eyes was seeing like what an online games looks like when it lags i must have completely blanked out but now i was in a cave or maybe like a parking like structure with big rocks and i remember seeing a horizontal purple light infront of me it was weird because i sat into a lotus potion like monks do in china which was weird because ive never meditated and i dont think i could get into this position either but sitting there looking into that purple light i felt really calm and peaceful and that everything was ok and that i had been introduced to a new thing like a game and that life is just a sort of game but more complex than this world hard to describe and i dont even understand i just felt it
after this high point things started to go down hill because ii woke up im my bathtub and there was like a party going on at my apartment which was weird cus i never have partys and few friends so i walked into the commons area and ther was my grandparents who had been dead for years which at the time did not seem at all strange and some other people i did not reconzie all talking and going from normal size to like an elf size and some would even disappear and than reappear in another location. this went on for awhile and i must have been confused cus i was going along with it like it was normal
than i herd a knock at my door and it was my old friend from school who had killed himself his junior year my burning himself alive when he crashed into a tree at 100mph after his girl broke up with him
I knew somthing was not right at this point cus i said aren't you dead and he said back with a pissed off look yeah i am
at this point him and all my other guest including ma gramps started to rot really fast in my commons areas like the NIN music video Hurt of the fox scene
to say the least i started to think there was worms like big tapeworm things started to crawl up my anus and into my penis hole at the same time wasp and spiders were comming out my nose and than blank blank blank

48hours later i wake up in a hospital padded cell and im like oh shit what happend and they told me i was at 2south which is the pyche ward at the hospital ...i was there for a full day till my parents finally got custody they people thought i had gone schizo

at my parents house i was back to normal except for i felt and still do very weak and a constant migraine
so i started to put the pieces togather after this apparently i had drove my car totally blacked out eventually crashing into the airport fence thats when they the police found my burnt up car but nobody that they started a search party
so apparently some hunters found me running thru the woods naked and covered in blood apparently i attacked them but they managed to restrain me and called the police the police instead of took me to jail they took me to the hospital
so to make a short story short i have no car now my parents are making me live with them and to top that off i have 2 assualt charges pending and have to prove to the people at the hospital that im not insane plus im cut up all over and feel weak and a pounding migraine that still wont go away
But most of all i feel like a real idiot
did not learn if there was an afterlife and never giggled at all more like alot of crying and puking instead but i did gain a new awarness of how fragil life is and how easy it can be thrown away and for that
i THANKS the Nexus people for saving my life the other night becouse i almost died anyways but if i had not puked and called for help like they said i should i pretty sure i would be dead or a vegatable by now
thank you all

Alright, I read your trip report and I'm happy that you survived this whole ordeal. It's good to see you took the advice to purge the seeds from your body. I'm hoping for you that this all will pass without too much hassle for you.

However, I would to make a few notes here on your experience. First of all, the friend that was supposed to take you to the hospital screwed up. Instead of making sure that you were given the proper medical care he took you to some lady to preach about the devil. And then he just dumped you on the side of the road while you were tripping. I dunno, I wouldn't call anyone who leaves me in such a state a friend. His action could have meant your death, so perhaps you should share that with him.

Secondly, as you have noticed it's dangerous to drive under the influence of any substance, whether it is alcohol, Ayahuasca or in your case jimsonweed.

Thirdly, I would strongly advice you to familiarize yourself with the Attitude page. I would also advice you to have a look at this thread in regard to discussions on dosage. On top of that, I can only urge you to do more and better research next time. If you would've typed in 'jimsonweed' in google, the first hit would've been the Wikipedia article, from which I quote:


With a single Google query you could've unveiled the information you needed to avoid this ordeal. I personally do extensive research before consuming a new substance. I always begin by reading the wikipedia article on said substance and then check out what erowid.org has on the substance. From there on I usually google for other sources to verify that the information I read is correct. I usually also browse the related Nexus forum for other necessary information such as preparation.

And last, but not least: Please ensure that you have a sober person around next time you're going to try a new substance. Make sure this is someone you trust and that this person understands the responsibilities he/she has as a tripsitter and that they are at least knowledgeable about the substance you will be consuming. They don't have to be experienced, even though that is preferred, but they do have to have read background information on it.

I'm happy that you're alive, even though you got in serious troubles. I hope this nightmare hasn't scared you away from psychedelics but I do hope they made you reluctant to try anything new.

Could you perhaps apply some formatting and punctuation to your post? It's really difficult to read.

Glad you're still alive. My friend please do some reading about substances before taking them. I hope your trip report pushes more people away from the substance you ingested. Cheers to living!

So you did survive! :]

and hopefully learned something

So many emotions...

1) I still don't know if I believe any of this or not.
2) I'm glad you're alive.
3) I think you are very possibly the dumbest human being ever to walk this planet.
4) You are banned from the DMT-Nexus for the next 150 years. Grow up in the interim, stay away from all drugs, and then feel free to return.

Really, how will this exactly benefit Beowulf in this case? In my opinion it is better to keep someone around and attempt to educate them than to punish in such a harsh way for a really stupid mistake.

+1

I agree with this, I think for now it is more important to teach this person more responsibility asap. For that we have to be in contact with him and that is a bit difficult when suspended.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

glad to hear everything worked out alright.

sounds like you learned quite the lesson about doing your homework first

seriously good to know that you are feeling better.

pretty sure that was a joke.

When you get your own shiny moderator's badge, I guess you can make that call.

And actually, no. Not a joke. I'm happy he's safe (if this isn't actually some kind of weirdo bullshit storytelling), but regardless, there is no place for him here. For those who don't like it, tough toenails.

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It's your show, Trav. Do what you feel is best...

Banning seems pointless and yeah, wont help anyone..

Harm Reduction. This is why harm reduction was created, right?

He should at least be able to post something about what he's learned from the irresponsible use, and he can't do that if he's banned.

^ No need for social hierarchy, we all have our faults.
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When you take such a dose of a deleriant, anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.
At least you've got some perspective on the fragility of life. That is an excellent thing to learn from.

But I do agree this was the most monumentally stupid thing you could have done. And I've done some pretty stupid stuff. For that, I pity you.


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Of course, on the other hand he could just be a troll.

I myself would find it hilarious to write up a report like this, not too hard with a little imagination. (Trolls are good at this.)

IN this case, I would agree with Art's ban, either way im satisfied with the chuckle it gave me.

No comment!

scratch that.

EDIT: It does sound like a troll post though, after reading it over again and the previous thread. His friend just leaving him out to hang? I call BS... First time drug user and this person have been collecting seeds over the summer without any research on the effects? yeah okay...

I understand that the Nexus wants to help and that harm reduction would be it's main focus in a situation like this. I agree the ban 'may' have been a little harsh, but I agree through n' through with Art on the rest of the matter. The lazy popping-off at the head writing style and the childish demeanor through his/her couple posts seem to suggest either one of two things, either this is an EXTREMELY idotic person, or a troll just typing up a storm of bs to get responses. I tend to go with the latter.

I've always been the type to question everything, and to seek the truth about even the most mundane aspects of life/technology/sciene/law... or whatever happens to make its way into my daily existence, thus instigating my inquisitive nature.

So with all due respect to everyone involved in this discussion, I have a few questions.

How and why would a first time drug user

A)decide to use datura
B)do no research whatsoever(a google search of jimsonweed pulls POISON POISON POISON)
C)exceed the lethal dosage by such a large margin
D)Somehow end up at DMT-Nexus instead of any of the plethora of other sites dedicated to mind altering substances, to announce his intentions of embarking on this particularly hard to beleive journey

Also, I don't see how that many poor decisions could have been mentally OR physically possible to make in a single day, especially if the story is legitimate and he indeed ingested such a large quantity of this poison. I have no basis for denying the possibility of a person exhibiting this level negligence. But my intuition is being pervaded by strong resistance to the tale being told.

I sincerely hope that i'm incorrect making such an astute observation. And if i'm wrong I offer my apologies. But in the event that I am wrong and this tale is based on a real life situation, then tt scares and bewilders me that someone like this could be driving around my town in this state of mind. The level of negligence that has been willingly offered up as truth suggests that this person has no regard for the well being of himself and others.

I am not a judgemental person, as i have done many questionable things in my life. We all make mistakes and I would be a hypocrite to suggest otherwise. But this is beyond my level of comprehension and I am not sure I beleive that this is the best arena for the type of guidance that this person appears to need. +

Conversely, if indeed this is all a hoax, and it was supposed to be some form of entertainment, or a joke made in order to generate shock/panic/immediate attention, then I feel ashamed for him.

To all of my fellow nexians, and especially our team of forum moderations, please forgive my bluntness. I do not intend to stir up unnecessary negativity or show disrespect to any of you. But I tend to agree with Art on this one. I understand those who feel inclined to help this person. Guidance is clearly needed. But given the level of negligence committed by this person, I feel he lacks any regard for the safety of himself/others and it honestly horrifies me to think that we could potentially being providing this person with his next round of ammunition. We can hope that he has learned his lesson and will go from being a huge liability, and potential danger to the lives of our families, friends, and children, to becoming a responsible, upstanding member of the nexus that will not go out on another joyride/killing spree through your neighborhood. I've always beleived that it is up to the individual to change theirself, and that you can't help someone that won't help themselves.

I empathize with the nurturing/loving spirit of this community and share the hope that we can collectively help to create a future full of progress, enlightenment, and awareness. But I would be hesitant to beleive that anonymous internet guidance is going to make a significant positive change here. And I doubt I need to point out that a place like this provides 101 new ways to repeat the same behavior, and its all in a nice organized, easy to read format.

With all of that being said. I don't mean to ruffle feathers. I have much love and respect for all of those that participate in this community. I simply wanted to provide a different viewpoint; that this site could easily provide this person the tools needed to go out and cause severe damage to himself and others. Remember the expression "Happier than a kid in a candy store?" well DMT NEXUS could be the candy store of this kids demise.

Sorry for the long post. And I apologize in advance for any mal-intent that may be perceived from my message. I absolutely have the purest intent in sharing my thoughts. And i truly hope that Mr. Beowulf gets the help he needs, and remains in good health after what I imagine would have been a journey to the depths of hell and back.

Have a good evening friends. And I sincerely hope for the best, regardless of what happens.

My thoughts exactly. Thank you MOT for articulating my point of view in a more patient manner than I'm capable of.

In the first place, I don't believe word one of this bullshit. How does one spend six months identifying plants and collecting seeds without doing even a rudimentary internet search? Had this occurred, no one would ever even consider what this imbecile is reporting. Secondly, had he taken such a dose, the entire episode would likely be a complete blank. He wouldn't be recalling the entire sequence of events in linear fashion.

Now, if it is true (which I highly, highly, highly doubt it is), jail is exactly where this asshole belongs. You don't get to wantonly endanger innocent civilians and walk around free in this society. Personally, I'm glad that these guidelines exist. They're what prevent knucklehead pricks like this from running down my family in the midst of a stupor.

Finally, I absolutely do NOT want to be a party to this person (assuming it's true, which again, it's not...) gaining any amount of drug information. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing in the hands of such a fucktard. I appreciate The Traveler's hippy leanings and desire to make a difference. I just feel it's misplaced in this instance and wholly undeserved.

If it's all legit - then thank God he's alright.

If he's a troll - the ban is in order obviously

If he's not a troll - He doesn't posses the decision making capabilities to use these compounds safely AT ALL and therefore doesn't need any more "egging on" by hanging around here.

solid call Art

While I am glad he is alive (if indeed a true story, which is highly unlikely) I disagree with the decision to allow this person more time on our forum. He was allowed to post his report, confirming he still lives, however, I do not see what benefit he could possibly add here.

The Traveler is a compassionate and forgiving soul but I see no point in giving this fellow any more of our energy than he's already stolen. Beowulf does not belong amongst this group of responsible users and in the interest of harm reduction (both himself and others) I feel he should be shown the door.

Thanks for the writeup, MOT.