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eyedn
#1 Posted : 1/1/2013 10:40:00 PM

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Hello all! I'm new member and couldn't post on extraction forum I had some question so I posted here if anyone could help before I ruin it
it's second time I'm trying to extract jungle spice from mimosa
first time I mixed random amount of liquid rye with mimosa and then extracted with zippo
the result was about 2gr from 1kg root barks (0.2 %) and it was not as good as the one once my friend made
I actually didn't shake the bottle very much like only about 5 minutes several time a day
now I have 5kilo and want to start tomorrow so wondering was it important to shake them a lot (after putting naphtha) ?
because I have only few days to do it so wondering could I extract all the 5kilo on time?
one more thing is I couldn't find heptane or hexane here so is zippo bad in for potency or weight?
so what can I do to have more? and how many gr max I can have jungle spice from 5kilo?
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#2 Posted : 1/1/2013 11:09:11 PM

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Welcome. I am unable to assist as I haven't extracted before.
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#3 Posted : 1/2/2013 12:26:22 AM

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5 kilos? That's quite a batch for personal use no? Hope you are not selling it, that would not be welcome here.

Aside from that, welcome and with that amount you could expect 1-2% yield. So 50-100 gram (see why that would seem suspicious)

Naptha is not a good solvent for extracting jungle spice, xylene or d-limonene are better suited. Check the wiki and FAQ section... all your answers are there.

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#4 Posted : 1/2/2013 11:06:21 AM

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thanks for the info
no I'm not into selling, it's half for me half for friend and as the previous time we used 2gr in a week as it was not so potent we thought this time making more. and I can't make it again because it's my last month here so that's whhy I want to make all at once
so what about shaking section? does it matter I shake it alot? cause dealing with that amounttakes too much time
 
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#5 Posted : 1/2/2013 11:12:24 AM

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I don't know what was wrong previous time it was not like salvia takes us away when we smoking
it was only closed eyes shadows and black and white shapes
 
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#6 Posted : 1/2/2013 12:18:01 PM

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Wait a minute here...you want to extract from 5 KILOS in one hit?? Surprised Surprised
WTF dude...
please do me a small favour...put down that bark and read solidly for a month...then rethink those quantities...
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#7 Posted : 1/2/2013 12:55:50 PM

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eyedn wrote:
Hello all! I'm new member and couldn't post on extraction forum I had some question so I posted here if anyone could help before I ruin it
it's second time I'm trying to extract jungle spice from mimosa
first time I mixed random amount of liquid rye with mimosa and then extracted with zippo
the result was about 2gr from 1kg root barks (0.2 %) and it was not as good as the one once my friend made
I actually didn't shake the bottle very much like only about 5 minutes several time a day
now I have 5kilo and want to start tomorrow so wondering was it important to shake them a lot (after putting naphtha) ?
because I have only few days to do it so wondering could I extract all the 5kilo on time?
one more thing is I couldn't find heptane or hexane here so is zippo bad in for potency or weight?
so what can I do to have more? and how many gr max I can have jungle spice from 5kilo?
Thanks


Please read the Wiki with due attention; all your queries are answered in there.

Until you are familiar with the process try to follow the teks closely ie do not use random amounts of base.The mimosa/base mix needs to be jet black in color indicating adequate basification.

Lighter fluid will not pick up the jungle spice you seek; xylene or d-limonene are much more suitable (but d-limo extracts will need salting out- relevant info also in the Wiki).

Shaking the mix with solvent added vigorously often results in emulsions; gently turning the container over is adequate and again, the Wiki covers this too.

If your mimosa is not bunk then I think working on your extraction technique should give much better results- so much so that I doubt you will need to attempt to extract from 5kg in one go.We strongly discourage such large scale extractions which are questionable and also unnecessary once ones tek-skills are finely honed.For this reason you should work carefully with much smaller amounts in order to get much better results as your techniques improve.
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#8 Posted : 1/2/2013 4:01:21 PM

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I think I didn't do correctly previous time. I think was because rye and fluid.
I always heard dmt is the most powerful that's why I have doubt thought maybe it's because not taking maoi or something wrong about the pipe. tried with many strong dosages that's why 2g was finished fast. I didn't know it can be 1, 2% spice out of it, the price of2kg was same about as 5 so thought will be max 10gr and as last time used 2 big jars this time 10 jars. but as you say I have to be more careful this time.
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#9 Posted : 1/3/2013 1:23:35 AM

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with q21q21's tek i got over 8g from just 1 pound (and i am sure there is more in there, but i am not sure its work all the salting for such little amounts).

and that was my first extraction (Excepting the prior test extract of 50g, which also went perfectly). doing your homework REALLY pays off.

not trying to be condescending, just saying.. the amount you get back is directly correlated to how much effort you put into it.


one piece of advice i will add, if i could do it again, i would do it in groups of no more than 250g. its incredibly easier to handle and much more efficient (i ended up breaking up my basified bark up into seperate glass containers and putting solvent in each one).
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#10 Posted : 1/3/2013 4:44:50 AM

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No ones mentioned it yet, but why are you attempting to extract jungle spice with naptha and rue? Did I miss something? I've used xylene after several pulls with naptha. After leting the solvent evaporate for a couple of weeks, I was left with a dark red waxy blob that tasted like shrooms. It was way more mellow, but not as visual as just nn- dmt.
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#11 Posted : 1/3/2013 5:44:10 AM

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I have used 250 g of bark in one year's time. That stuff is worth more than gold to most here, so please, please, please, don't waste 5 kilos of such a precious thing!! Try doing 100 g first, following the tek closely. It should be more than enough for you and your buddy to last a while.

Also, you can extract regular spice, as well as jungle spice both from the same jar containing the basified bark. Don't limit yourself to just one, they both are pretty amazing.

And I'm also a bit confused about rye/rue and the like. You're not alone RayTracer.
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