Many of us do not label ourselves with a specific religion, but lots of us consider ourselves to be "spiritual" in a way... What are your viewpoints on this? I would love to hear some new perspectives!

1. Who, or what, is "God"
2. What is life/consciousness?
3. Do we have some sort of "goal" here?
4. What is this higher power that we so often encounter on DMT trips?
5. Is it our job/right to even ask these questions?

6... What happens IF/when we find out?

Answer any that appeal to your intellect!
Looking forward to reading your responses

I was never one for sticking onto one belief, because of all of the possibilities, it's near impossible to just assume one could be truly 100% correct and the others be absolutely false, and so i have been in search for awhile, all my life infact, to figure out a lot of those questions you asked, and the simple answer i can give you for now: I don't know.

Much love

What a wonderful phrase haha! You know... when you think about it, I think all of us are in that same boat haha! Its fun to imagine though

1: God is an encompassing word. An umbrella term, if I may call it that. It fathers the concept of creation; the concept of inception. God is the force that unites all the vibrations and all the energies. God is seen after the realization that there truly is no deep-rooted difference between any two entities, that everything is flowing through the same wave in vast ocean. God is the link between that everything, and God is what separates and combines. God is forces; water, fire, air, earth and all in between.

2: It is the realization of a drop of water that is the collective sum of all previous lives and experiences.

3: 98 loops of acid later, I am still unable to answer that question. All I can say is that I would like to believe that we do.

4: The collective consciousness and higher beings. I do believe in higher beings. I believe them to be a council of nine. That some souls are sent to be prophets and warriors. I will stick to brevity at this junction.

5: Of course it is. If it weren't, we wouldn't be offered medicine to enlighten us.

6: Umm..we find out?

God to me is the idea of a creator. God could be a chemical reaction. Humans invented the notion of a creator because we can create life by having sex and creating a new life so the idea that something created life isn't really a big step in human evolution i think.

I personally think that life itself is god, we are life so we are god. We can create life and we are conscious so we are on par with any god. We can kill destroy and also love and nurture. We are no different from a god.

When the universe inexplicably came into being it could have been created by a god or gods like us in a lab for example. A life form that can create life, a higher intelligence than us but still very much like us. A thinker and a doer.

Life and consciousness is a process of being that can't be stopped, it just is.......

The goal in my opinion is to stay alive and multiply, the goal of life itself i mean, not personal goals like learning etc..

The higher power could be our own minds unlocking itself to think on a higher level and it is manifested in visual hallucinations. It could also be other life forms trundling along much like ourselves. I really don't know about that one tbh.

It isn't our job to think these things, it's our instincts that make us think like this imo. Looking for the ultimate truth is the goal... Oh ive answered the earlier question here

When we find out the thing that we search for we will probably be happy and admire the creation that is life and consciousness. Hopefully in an eternal existence. Either that or we die and the lights go out and it's goodbye forever. (Shakes fist at life).

I believe this as well... I do not wish to call it god however... You can call it tomato soup if you want lmao. its just English haha. I dont think it should be given a name... god has a strange feeling that is associated with it, the word just seems to imply a SINGLE thing, not, everything...

I like to think that life exists because we intend to live... This is so fun! Its like the greatest video game ever! We get to touch stuff, and drink things! Things like that are so amazing when you really thing about them. Sometimes I catch myself looking around and thinking... whoa, what is all of this? how is this possible?

1. God is the sum total of the universe. It is the universe in its entirety.
2. Consciousness is awareness. It is experiencing in some fashion. Life is the amalgamation of experiences.
3. To amass experiences
4. I think its a manifestation of the divine in a perceptibly energetic form
5. Why should we not be allowed to ask these questions? As humans we have the capacity to attempt to grapple with these questions, and on that notion alone, I see no reason aside of social control to prevent people from asking these questions.
6. The whole game changes

1. Who, or what, is "God"

I believe that 'God' is simply energy. Everything is constructed of vibrational, electrical, and electromagnetic energy, I like to put it as Bill Hicks said it, matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration.

2. What is life/consciousness?

Life is a spectacular gift of which we were all given. We were given an opportunity to simply have a human experience. Which is all life is, an experience.


3. Do we have some sort of "goal" here?

Impossible to be truly sure, at least from my current understanding. But if I was to give it a shot I would say to ultimately choose love over suffering, to break the cycle.


4. What is this higher power that we so often encounter on DMT trips?

I personally haven't experienced DMT a lot. I've done it a few times but have never experienced a breakthrough yet. I am waiting until the time is right to do an extraction of my own. location location location

5. Is it our job/right to even ask these questions?

We are free to do whatever we please, there are no boundaries or limits in all that is, only the ones you develop yourself. Knowledge is power.

6... What happens when we find out?

Rejoice! Celebrate! For every moment of the day we are granted an opportunity to awake from the clutches of suffering. Have faith in your inner knowing and in the universe, you will never go wrong.

I'm not one to speak in sureties and definitive answers but at this present moment in my journey I would answer these questions like this:

1. G/d is the sound of beautiful music being created but also the sound of volcano's destroying life and everything in its path to create anew again. It is the heights of beauty that this universe has created but also the vast atrocities that go along with it... Basically everything good and bad that currently exists that when combined, create one great, yawning, awesome, terrifying and beautifully crystalised and infinite moment. G/d is the Universal Mind/Consciousness that comprises all of reality.

2. Life/consciousness is simply the act of being and living in the only thing we really know. The here and now.

3. The goal is to live and experience the potential that is inside of each and everyone of us.

4. From my admittedly limited DMT experience all I can say is that it is simply much more than our ordinary perception can perceive of consensus reality, ie; Huxley's "Mind at Large".

5. I do think that if you are ready as an individual, it is definitely our right to ask these questions, at least for the advancement of our collective species, if not, for our own personal contribution to the Universal Mind/Consciousness that is cataloging each and everyone of our individual experiences in life to expand the Universal Mind even further.

6. When we find out, we simply become part of the Universal Mind/Consciousness and relinquish any individuality we might have experienced in our human life.

These are my personal ideas I have gathered in my short time on this Earth which I will be the first to admit are extremely hampered by my limited human perception (except under altered states of consciousness) so I will stress that these are my views (and not absolute truths) that are not set beliefs and I am as open as possible to the idea of them being a bit off to completely wrong if any new ideas/concepts indicate a better framework of understanding

Great thread by the way, very thought provoking

God is us, me, you, your family, my family, the animals, the tree's, the water, everything, all existence is God. Metatron is our scribe, we the immortal invisible being encompass the entirety of existence and experience all thing's we cannot be destroyed, we cannot be touched or truly known, even to ourselves.

All matter/consiousness is emotion, feeling/experience and we change that experience through intent.

Truths within truths, god has a million masks.

1. Who, or what, is "God"
There is no accurate way to define what a god is, as different people have different opinions on the matter. I don't believe in a deity however, and therefore do not have a definition that I believe to be correct.

2. What is life/consciousness?
Consciousness - Awareness of one's own existence.
Life - The condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms.

3. Do we have some sort of "goal" here?
Animals live to reproduce and strengthen the survivability of their species.

4. What is this higher power that we so often encounter on DMT trips?
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Brain chemistry.

5. Is it our job/right to even ask these questions?
It's not our job, nor our right to do anything. People can do whatever they want.

6... What happens IF/when we find out?
What are you referring to?

1. Energy of Love which projects with vibratory light (like a hologram) which manifests into limited holographic computer programs on an infinite scale (its proven 99% of an atom is void of matter). Fear is an illusion, without limitations there is no fear, only truth.
2. A Divine experience.
3.The goal is to become aware of who we really are (love manifested in the flesh) from the illusions (fear) we are bombarded in this game and fear is here to teach us how to love. Or just to be.
4. No clue, no experience with the spirit molecule. I like Simon Powell's interpretation of the psilocybin experience, that illicits the higher self.
5. I think so, Its fun to try and figure things out.
6. The heartbeat of creation will condense back into novelty.
To me, all emotions (energy in motion) either come from love or fear, i think that's our free will to choose which path we take.
Im not certain of my answers of course and its only opinion, but thats what ive come up with in this human experience.

The reality hidden behind the senses.



And here is a section the a specific Upanishad that I hold close.

Shevetashvatara Upanishad IV


He who projects himself
Into this universe of myriad forms,
From where all beings come and to whom all return

He is the fire and the sun, and the moon
And the stars. He is the air and the sea,
He is this boy, he is that girl, he is
This old man, too, tottering on his staff.
His face is everywhere

He is the blue bird; he is the green bird
With red eyes; he is the thundercloud,
And he is the seasons and the seas.
He has no beginning; he has no end.
He is the source from whom the worlds evolve.

From this divine power comes forth all this
Magical show of name and form, of you
And me, which casts the spell of pleasure and pain.

Only when we pierce through this magic veil
Do we see the One who appears as many.

That's perfect.

1. Who, or what, is "God" - irreducible to a concept.

2. What is life/consciousness? -life and consciousness are two vastly different things, so i will play it safe and say: awareness

3. Do we have some sort of "goal" here? - in a sense, though really the goal is just to ride the roller coaster to the end.

4. What is this higher power that we so often encounter on DMT trips? - ¿

5. Is it our job/right to even ask these questions? - presumably so, else we would have been made to not want to ask these questions.

6... What happens IF/when we find out? - you forget shortly afterwards.

edit- Tattvamasi, great post that exposes how i feel exactly.

I suppose god to me is everything from people, language, birds, chemicals, weather, cars, air, planets, suns, galaxies all existing and moving simultaneously synchronized within the present moment all with eachother, everything existing as one but also experiencing the illusion of separateness and life. Whenever my mind is lucid clear and all there is is my breath and heartbeat and whatever sensory perception...i feel one with it all like i AM god experiencing existing with god, like a warm current of water experiencing the rest of the ocean... of course whenever we take these experiences and change it into words, the true profound meaning/epiphany of it all is lost within the labels of semantics.

This is an intriguing thread, uftusaf123. Thanks for planting it in Nexian soil! It's always such a thrill to read the expansive ideas and contemplative expressions of our fellow psychonauts, who are on many levels, our entheogenic family members. Many fine remarks and profound insights have already been freely shared in this way cool thread. Kudos Gang!

Regardless of your religious affiliations or lack of any such affiliations... each and every one of you folks, I wish you and yours well this Holiday Season! May you all discover more & more enchantment blooming within in your own world.



Well, that's The Big Question. I feel that God is essentially the Unified Field of Being, upon which all of existence and non-existence, are overlaid (if one chooses to name this presence as this or that). IMO, humanoids touch this field through the lens of The Godhead, which is the full blossom of sentient understanding, dawning within incarnate self. It is effectively, a union of individual conscious-awareness within the web of non-individuated Brahman.

Still, the Supreme Being remains beyond proper quantification or definition... but feel that it's greatest humanly perceivable manifestation and attribute, can be tagged, The Grid. You know, that Omniscience encompassing all of this universe and beyond the boundaries of self and other, the limits of our perceptual ability.

Based purely on an intuition that magikally pops into my head, I have sensed a frequency of Divine Mind, which is supra-intelligence and a wholly transcendental, expansive vibration of love. An infinite totality, one which is able to shine effulgently, free of the dichotomy of subject and object polarities.

It has been said that "God" in it's formless aspect, is the mysterious Tao, that unbound current flowing eternally throughout all of being/non-being (and immanent within all potentiality of being and becoming). Tis the Indivisible force masquerading as the many... and out of this fulcrum, all things are created. And therefore, what then is not God?



Isn't that sort of, kind of... the same question as #1? Just kidding, my friend. But I do see exactly where you are coming from. Perhaps we reflect the life force in vastly different ways, granted, but the energy is the same wave, endlessly morphing. I submit that God is absolute and we are relative expressions of the very same stuff (despite appearances and our conceptual projections, as isolated selves). Deep within our core selves, we are the Universal Awareness awakening within the subjectivity of an individual soul vortex. The Awakening of the Omniself, so to speak.



If one chooses to create a goal or a purpose for existential being, especially post re-birthing, that's just fine by me. It's all good. We are free to manifest a predestined purpose and propose justification for our own existence. In truth, I suspect that we are existent beings to bloom in our own unique way.

So, it's only natural to honor the vision of another soul reflection. Yes? I personally believe that reality as it is, needs no intended purpose, nor is it an attainable goal. In the living present, this very instant of the HERE & NOW... there is no beginning, nor any ending to this exact moment. It remains non matter how our paradigm shifts.



What is always right under our noses. DMT and the other classic psychedelics facilitate our discovery of what already is. There seems to be an almost spontaneous attunement to the universal vibration, a tone of higher understanding and Divinity, ringing-out in scintillation, an oscillating call towards a holistic balance and harmonious acceptance of all we perceive. Everything is the higher power, regardless of appearance, form or the absence of form.



It is if we decide to accept it as such a linear process. We are hard-wired to desire to know more, be more and perceive more than we already do. We seek something immune to any veil of illusion or mirrored refractions of our mortal mirages. Why is this so? Because IMO, we are expressing the universal need to arrive , exist and return back into the Void.

No philosophy or esoteric metaphysical ideology can fully contain the infinitude of this state and level of Omniscience. We can but pause just long enough to stop our minds, thus fuse our intention, by way of direct immersion and so... cease to exist as separate parts of the whole.



"Before enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water. After enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water."

Is not becoming spiritually awakened also an acceptance of tending to our challenges in life and our organic dilemmas? Finding the Middle Way, the proverbial "higher road", in a manner of speaking, seems like a good plan. Deciding for ourselves, which path draws us into the horizon line beyond of our own unique paradigmatic, self equations, as open, transforming individuals.

So I say, "Let us dance together joyfully!"

I really enjoyed this quote from Robert Anton Wilson:

"I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.

I strongly suspect that a world "external to," or at least independent of, my senses exists in some sense.

I also suspect that this world shows signs of intelligent design, and I suspect that such intelligence acts via feedback from all parts to all parts and without centralized sovereignity, like Internet; and that it does not function hierarchically, in the style of an Oriental despotism, an American corporation or Christian theology.

I somewhat suspect that Theism and Atheism both fail to account for such decentralized intelligencce, rich in circular-causal feedback."



I frequently have daydreams of the incomprehensible story of evolution... for some reason hydrogen gas turns into people, given the right circumstances. Of course it turns into plenty of other things as well. The mystery of it all is so exciting...

God is love man. When you learn to love you'll be with god.