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JohnnyLovesCactus
#1 Posted : 11/28/2012 12:04:34 AM
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Ive read a few people say they have gotten an amber looking waxy gel. At first i thought i was going to have to throw this away because im used to mimosas white crystals. Like i said i thought this was a waste but i scraped it up so i could get a picture and ask you guys about it. What would you do with this? i used q21q21s tek btw.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/28/2012 12:44:31 AM

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Hey Johnny, I can't see the picture. However, on my 1st STB extraction after the naptha evaporated, I was left with a honey or amber colored oil that slowly thickened into a gel.
It was very powerful, not sure what else it contained but it couldn't be that harmful as I didn't get any side effects after coming back down.
Does it smell like spice?
As has been said by the more experienced members here, An A/B method works well with Acacia.
My 2nd extraction yielded beautiful white crystals but it didn't seem any more potent than the 'amber gel'.
If it smells like spice, I would smoke it.
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#3 Posted : 11/28/2012 1:31:00 AM

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..update..the 'crystalized' material, upon being scraped from the dish became a
yellow>orange soft 'putty'..that's the nmt refusing to stay solid..however i suspect that the nmt as an oil is actually 95-98%nmt+something else (maybe betacarboline or 5meo-nmt or a plant oil)..re-purification of this putty/wax should result in a solid re-x of nmt/dmt, but may take away some of the extra 'character'..the crystalized nmt in the 2001 experiment went through two stages of purification/re-x, resulting in white 'swirly circular' needles that turned yellow upon standing..

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.one of my main points (to this forum) about NMT is that, personally, i would prefer to experience DMT in combination with it..a more encompassing experience..
and on it's own it is deeply healing..

at this stage Acacia confusa would be one of the most accessible consistent sources of NMT with DMT (about 50/50)
..A. obtusifolia (the inspiration of the 2001 experiments) can vary seasonally and geographically..sometimes no NMT, sometimes other alkaloids..

Can be not as strong but still very good.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/28/2012 2:16:19 AM

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I did an extract the other day and got a gooey amber that was very highly active.
I am doing another extract at present, should be dry tonight, i`ll take a photo to show what I have. Smile
Have others tried freeze precipitation? or are simply evaporating the pulls?
 
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#5 Posted : 11/28/2012 4:19:57 AM
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and yea it smells like dmt, im still a lil nervous to be honest with you, would recrystallizing clean it up a bit?
 
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#6 Posted : 11/28/2012 4:27:21 AM

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if it smells like spice i say go for it. i don't think there could be anything harmful as long you let the naphtha evaporate. swim recommends using marsfold's tek. he got some pretty clean white crystals from confusa using it.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/28/2012 4:57:42 AM
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Im trying to do as much reading here as possible, during this extraction i didnt do any de-fatting which i guess explains the goo. Im planning on defatting next time but i'm still not sure i fully understand this.

so i add my almost boiling distilled water mixed with vinegar to my bark. Then to defat use xylene or something similar?

then what, continue the process as normal(add lime, mix, wait and then do naptha pulls)

q21q21s tek is the one i am most familiar with
 
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#8 Posted : 11/28/2012 7:12:45 AM

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I just evaporated my pulls, instead of freeze precipitation, and haven't bothered to recrystalise.
Here is how mine looks from the extraction yesterday (sorry in advance for the terrible phone pic).

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#9 Posted : 11/28/2012 4:35:26 PM
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I got the same goo aswell. Im working on a freez percip now.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/29/2012 12:58:45 AM

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I suspect xylene would be a better solvent to use for confusa.
 
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#11 Posted : 12/23/2012 3:59:39 AM

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"Thick-Light A/B Tek"

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#12 Posted : 12/23/2012 7:30:40 PM

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JohnnyLovesCactus wrote:
Ive read a few people say they have gotten an amber looking waxy gel. At first i thought i was going to have to throw this away because im used to mimosas white crystals. Like i said i thought this was a waste but i scraped it up so i could get a picture and ask you guys about it. What would you do with this? i used q21q21s tek btw.


I've been reading everything I can on ac and it seems to be that peoplle are pulling a wider spectrum of goodies NMT and DMT around 50/50 depending on tek, using salt seems to work well with acbr to push the alks into the solvent better. Also the goo seems a common result so for all that is good and holy DON'T toss it... you can either let it sit for a few days and it should harden up more (waxy consistency) or better yet, make some changa/infused leaf. I have read mixed results regarding re-ex. Seems like convertin the freebase back to salt form, defatting and then basifying back to freebase seems to work well to re-ex goo, but again.. just what I've picked up from fellow nexians.

The full spectrum product seems to be very much liked by most and the Q21 tek (depending which variant you used) is used to pull the JimJam (full spectrum)

Crystals sure are special, but appearance isn't everything, you may like changa better.. all about exploration anyway right?Big grin
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#13 Posted : 12/24/2012 3:51:18 PM

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Heptane, Xylene, or Naphtha??
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#14 Posted : 12/24/2012 4:09:39 PM

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So, will the usual 'make a base using sodium hydroxide, add 150 ml naptha, let sit overnight, pull, freeze overnight, etc.' work with acacia the same as mimosa. That is the process I am used to using.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
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#15 Posted : 12/25/2012 3:17:49 AM

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I tried an A/B on a. confusa. Lots of citric boiling and one extraction with everclear just for fun, which indeed increased the alkaloid yield and affected a brown coloration in the later pulls.

First 2 pulls (naphtha with freeze precipitation) were very white, cleaner than some mimosa first pulls. After getting it onto the plate, it changed to drops of liquid which smelled typically tryptamine-like but had more of a smell like a mixture of different human body fluids. With manual crystallization sessions taking place once a day, it took about 3 days for this goop to actually become the white crystals I was expecting. Those crystals still behave quite more like actual candle wax than any other extract from any other plant. It just looks like crystals, but really there is a goopy undertone.

Bioassay of this material was substantially less intense than mimosa alkaloids at the same dosage, however (in an unrelated way) there was an ineffably more positive vibe to the whole experience. Nothing threatening AT ALL. It may have had more threatening-ness to offer had I not already experienced mimosa alkaloids at very high dose, as I think there is a certain amount of experience one must gain of dealing with the energy built up from previous poorly-programmed behavior before the adjusted behavior of post-DMT can build up into the sort of thing that consistently rewards you upon "smoalking". But it could be that this plant's alkaloid mix is really human-friendly.

Later pulls, which are probably containing fats, refuse to get past the very-viscous goo phase. However, they smell exactly the same as earlier pulls.
 
 
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