Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum but lurk around quite often to answer my various DMT questions. I thought it was time for me to finally join in. =)

Well first of all, I've been doing a lot of research into ayahuasca. I'm going to try it for the first time probably in a month or so, and I had some general questions. I'm pretty nervous.

I'd like to begin by saying that I'm not trying to avoid the purge. I understand that this is an important part of the experience and I am fine with that. What I do want to avoid is my experience being inhibited by feeling nauseas or having bowel issues throughout the experience. I have a very sensitive digestive system. If I eat even a low dose of mushrooms I get incapacitated by nausea and stomach cramps and they make me vomit pretty violently. I've had a sensitive stomach my entire life. I don't doubt that I'll throw up on ayahuasca no matter what I do to the brew. That doesn't bother me. I just want to avoid persisting discomfort.

We'll be using mimosa hostilis and syrian rue. I've read that mimosa causes the most nausea.

I've read several different techniques for removing tannins. I've read using egg whites or activated carbon. I've also read about using coffee filters. Does anyone have experience and can give me some information on what works? From what I've read, using egg whites works pretty well but there's some concern on it changing the pH of the brew. I can't find a lot of info on AC. I was a little concerned at the start that the DMT would bind to AC as well as tannins, but I guess that wouldn't happen. Does anyone know which method works best?

Another thing I read is using some lemon essential oil sublingually to reduce nausea, and I definitely intend to try that. First I want to try it with mescaline. Does anyone have experience with using it?

I am pretty nervous about the whole experience because of its intensity, but I really do want to do it. I think I want to use ayahuasca for the right reasons and I think it would be a very good experience for me to have. I guess I'm hoping for some general first time advice as well. It's all I've really been thinking about lately and I've been doing a lot of research. I'm experienced with psychedelics, just not DMT.

Any information anyone can give me on removing tannins/reducing nausea as well as any good advice for a first time DMT experience would be excellent. =)

Lemon essential oil burns pretty strong sublingually if taken straight. I won't do that again. If I want sublingual absorbtion I will add some drops to lemonade and drink slowly allowing it to wash around the mouth.

Normally; I just dilute the LEO in olive oil and gel-cap it.

Very interested in any input on the AC tannin removal as eggwhite fining can work well but may reduce potency some. I hear AC tannin removal does work; but no real info for you Neon Aurora.

Just be sure you take sufficient MAOI.

Lot's of folk say "3g rue" but if you are making tea that may not get all the goodies. I make a tea with 3 grams and swallow 1.5g broken seeds in a capsule. This is a way to get the best of both worlds IMO.

...Of course you could extract both MAOI and DMT to high purity and have much less nausea to worry about; mainly seretonergic to be taken care of with LEO (which is great to have on hand with all seretonergic psychs).


Blessings.

Thanks for the reply. =)

I didn't know the LEO burned. Good to know. I cant seem to find definite info on whether or not it needs to be food grade or if it can be the kind for aromatherapy. Is that unsafe to ingest?

I plan to dose the syrian rue in capsules. Would you recommend I take the amount I plan to take when I drink ayahuasca while sober to familiarize myself with its effects? I've never taken an MAOI. Or is that unnecessary? I want to do everything I can to give myself the best experience, so excuse all the questions.

I assume most of the nausea is from the actual tea being in your stomach. Also the syrian rue? Does anyone know if the nausea is also caused by the serotonin receptor 5HT3? Does LEO work pretty well?

Also, what does anyone think about the nausea being beneficial? Is it better to experience the nausea for a more rewarding experience? Or is that pointless? Also, has anyone had experiences with the nausea and sickness lasting while peak affects on in place? I'm going to be trying it with someone I would trust with my life and who is very experienced with ayahuasca. He thinks that we should leave some of the tannins in(Some will be filtered out by a coffee filter(does this work partially?) because he thinks it's more rewarding. However.. He has a very strong stomach and has never puked from ayahuasca. I'm the opposite. Opinions?

You can choose to take a MAOI sober before drinking ayahuasca but you don't need to. The beta-carbolines in rue that inhibit MAO-A are also active by themselves. Taking a MAOI in low doses will give you mainly euphoria and a general sense of well being. At higher doses they're psychedelic.

In regard to the nausea: I believe the nausea actually does affect the trip. It can be difficult at times but it's also very rewarding and can teach in itself. However, if you're indeed so sensitive you possibly might want to go the route of taking extracted harmalas with extract dmt. The harmalas themselves can be nauseatic enough without plant materials.