On my experiences I belive that sandwitch method is alot harder then just puttin
g your dose on top of a thick later of herbs
Reasons why half sandwiches are better

1easyer to put right amout of flame too
2. Can actually see your spice!
3.dosent catch fire as easily
4 its just all around better

I relly don't understand why it must be Between 2 layers when half sandwiches work fine

Nothin?

Thought this was a good subject nobody see it or something?

some people prefer to sprinkle it on their bowl, but this requires a better smoking method than sandwich (the top half helps prevent carbonation instead of vaporization)

in all honesty though, if this is your preferred method, infused leaf or changa are the way to go...

That's a better post ,not to be an ass hole or any thing
But I do like to see what I'm vaping but I'm a deciding weather to give changa a try or not

i use a glass bong, so i am seeing how much vapor i am getting, as opposed to how much powder i am melting (this is especially true for unmeasured doses).

i think you will be pleased with changa, it is not entirely often one makes changa and decides he didn't like it (though i am sure it has happened).

and then the only thing you have to 'see' is the infused herb you are vaping.

I wanna go for changa I studyed about it but only do 50g st b extractions so I'm not sure if have enough to make changa unlesse I do 2 extractions do you think one extraction would be enough for mine 2 doobies worth?

you should not smoke them in joints, it is a very inefficient method.

if you have enough dmt to smoke, you have enough to make changa with, not not a big batch of changa.

half sandwich method has got me "there" 9/10 times and even a misfired journey brings a strong sub-breakthrough. It gets some getting used to but once you "master" it then it should be no problem getting breakthroughs with any kind of piece. The amount used may vary because a vaporizer is more efficient but for those without a vaporizer, the "half sandwich" method is perfect for bowls, bongs, and whatever other pieces.

Also changa is great for those who are having problems getting to the other side. I've made changa with marijuana with a 1 gram : 1 gram spice to mj ratio and even though the initial "rush" isn't there (which could be a good thing) the profoundness, and effects are not diminished.. if anything they are slightly lengthen and layered (if that makes sense, changa seems to add a smoother "complexity" to the trip than straight spice/half sandwich.. with the half sandwich if you get it right you are going to be bombarded and then teleported to another dimension all in one move.. changa seems to "do the creep" and then suck you right in to it's world... alot smoother... the visuals seem slightly more "organic" with changa)

I've went from scraping dmt with herb (worst way )too the bottle aluminum method that was horrible
Then too a test tube with straw that sucked barley even worked,then too a bong witch it good using half sandwitchs
Now to a bowl with half sandwiches my fav now,but still no full on breakthrough yet but pretty damn close had things coming at me for like 8 mins full effect 15 mins crazy stuff

I also find that with half sandwitchs once it bubbles up it melts into the herb making it basically changa Noo more need for vaping just toke on it like you would mj is that normal ? j

Yes. Once the dmt is bubbling you gotta hit it like it's just mj or some other herb... these are the hits that are gonna carry you on through. The vaping hits may not seem like anything but they are just as important.. just gotta use a different technique to make sure you don't burn the dmt. But once the dmt starts bubbling you can most definitely go in for some pretty hard head smacking hits... and these are the ones that usually get the "warp speed dmt teleportation mechanism" in HIGH gear.

You still not getting any breakthroughs brother? Dont really know what to recommend because the half sandwich has been my way for at least 300 trips maybe more (my exp. is ~700 trips.. the half sandwich took some getting used to). I would say you could try the two bowl method... but you are gonna need someone to help you though.

What if when I bubbles and Infuses can I take lets say another hit and put it away then just pick it up another day and hit it like or so I gotta cape it agian I'm unsure about that one

And I can go for the break threw by taking that last hit lol I' m baby stepping it one 50 mg will get me like 3 decently good trips much stronger then that of what shrooms can doo so I get Pretty amazed at low trips now cuz they get stronger and strong we like last night my visuals were so inside the black light posters weren't even posters any more they did move they were just colers spinning lots more like crazyyyy cevs ill get there soon I'm just glad listing to you I ateast know how to get to hyperspace the time will come I'm sure of it just when is where I'm unsure lol

Sorry my phones shitty I ment to say can I just hit it like mj after already vapeed or infuesd like the next day pick it up and pretty much hit it like normal with out vaping agian

No doubt brethren... I figured you had got some success... you say 50 mgs gets you a decent three trips.. that's awesome. So you will for sure get that breakthrough once you do the full 50 all in one. I'm glad you are being patient with your explorations and that you only feel comfortable diving deeper when you are ready... that type of common sense goes a long way in the psychedelic realms. I have no doubt you'll pick up quite a few lessons once you get into those deeper areas... I'm sure you are picking up some now even with the low trips (I still take sub-breakthrough doses and those can be just as profound).

As far as picking it up the next day after it being vaped and infused?... I've done that before and have got some pretty heavy trips. I've combined burnt or vaped material to equal I don't know how many mgs of DMT... only to be super smashed... one trip I remember involved every single memory of my life being rapidly burnt on a disc (like my head was a hard drive, cd drive, motherboard, etc... ) and the disc popped out the top of my head and bounced all over the room leaving the most MAGNIFICIENT trail of colors I've ever seen in my life. It was pretty insane That's not the whole trip but I don't feel like writing a whole trip report about it... I just know it was one my most profound trips and all I smoked was a collection of already burnt/vaped dmt infused mj leftover material.

Thanks for all the help line I said soon as I get that breathrew a post will be up
And your trips sound crazyyyyy sounds like some goodtimes party in the brain I hope I get some profound trips like that but soo far I still get my mind completely blown each basic trip and they say being half drunk and stoned clouds the trip I think not lol I say its more fun and take a a load off

Sorry some word a you gotta put ttogether to make,sense damn auto correct I swear I hate touch screen phones

Don't worry.. I understand what you are saying. lol @ autocorrect. It can be a bit frustrating at times.

No doubt about the help... you are very welcome. My aim is to help as many like-minded psychonauts reach those realms like I have... simple method once mastered. I feel with the half sandwich method it could work with almost any piece.

Yeah, being stoned and or slightly drunk before the trip does take the load off.. so I know what you mean. I hesitate to recommend this to others because no one knows how certain substances may act when combined. But for me alcohol, marijuana, and DMT has been a super triple threat with no real ill effects... you must also consider that I'm not a chronic drinker but I am a daily smoker so alcohol may affect me in a different way especially in tandum with DMT and marijuana.

I've done this combination maybe 30-40 times total and each one was very unique... the adding of alcohol to the mix takes the edge off the pre-flight jitters AND gives you IRON LUNGS. The mj has always been in the mix but when combining the three my trips have a very hypnotic body trip with it.... during one trip while doing the triple threat (approximately two 40 ounces of malt liquor.. cheap lol... ~40 mgs of DMT.. and around .2 grams of marijuana), I remember holding the last hit for close to 40 seconds seriously... and the visual that popped up looked like a bunch of disco balls on a string crisscrossing each other. Pulsating different colors, different levels of light... all kinds of stuff but it stayed with these same disco balls the whole trip...

I watched these balls for 20-25 minutes with closed eyes (yes the trip was that long). What was so profound about the trip was... A. I was laughing hysterically the whole time... I'm talking almost laughing myself to death, tears flowing, gasping for air etc... 2. Every time a line of disco balls would pulsate or change colors or whatever my body would fold in pure ecstasy and pleasure... straight convulsions of orgasmic bliss... over and over and over... 3. When my eyes were open, my hands would immediately go into "gesture" mode. I'm talking full on flowing of hand gestures.. totally destroying my mind.. and it felt like I was being guided or controled when doing these hand gestures....

P.S. Can't wait to read that breakthrough trip report brethren!

Being drunk on dmt isn't that bad unless your too drunk then its kinda weird but ether way I still prefer it over sobered as of now,but damn your trips are off the wall I really hope mine will be the same
So far my trips have been always things move well just move cevs are crazyyyy and the whole room just gets relly relly weird looking just kinda hard to explain actually but goodtimes=)

Yes... alcohol in moderation I believe is totally fine!

Your trips now sound like a lot of my first trips before I upped my dosages... the room gets REALLY weird (it still does now). Breathing, morphing,swaying, then the symbols that look like heiroglyphic bubbles dancing around each other... then my eyes close and WHOOOOOMMMMMM it's ON!!

Once you go to the next level... I know you're gonna be amazed. My trips, although subjective, have always had some awe-inspiring stuff in it. I believe this is due to the fact that I'm naturally very inquisitive and imaginative. I write short stories and I'm a musician so creativity is an every day thing for me... I think psychs, especially DMT, can amp the creativity meter to off the charts, mixed in with the most random stuff, and it's no surprise that my trips have been so out of this world. Along with this, little tricks along the way have definitely transported me to truly outrageous places before... one trick that I've been working on is the "recognition" trick. For lucid dreamers this would be the moment where you realize you are dreaming and then take semi-control of the dreamscape. Well with DMT I've been trying this "recognition" trick but I must admit it is somewhat difficult. There is a moment in my trips where my brain has been totally shattered, reassembled, defragged, hard to put the pieces together mode, but after this moment is when the recognition kicks in.

When you realize that you are just partaking in the wonderful molecule you can do pretty amazing things in hyperspace. Having a focus, and going with the flow of hyperspace can take you to some crazy places and make you feel like you have "powers". In one trip after I had recognized I was tripping I immediately started to "charge up" like I was a super saiyan. I really thought I had these powers... lol I started to glow a brilliant gold and wisps of white smoke kept shooting out from me... it was pretty cool how
"in control" I felt. Little tricks like this can bring a comfort ability factor to hyperspace which in turn can leave you to some "wide open" trips.