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Getting the materials (Europe) for first time DMT extraction. Options
 
Overpowered
#1 Posted : 7/21/2012 4:41:56 PM
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I have decided to try DMT, and for the past 2-3 days have been reading on this forums, browsing it's 2-3 years old threads for every bit of information.

I am in southern EU, and I have discarded the idea on trying to extract DMT as my first time from other plants (such as Phalaris which grows 50meters away from my house) other than Mimosa hostilis.

1. To find mimosa hostilis inner root bark cuttings or in powdered, shredded form I have to order online..
-So far from reading the Suppliers subsection, sonoransong and maya-ethnobotanicals are the ones I have seen that ship internationally (outside americas), are trusted etc.

-My questions are -

Does anyone else in Europe have successfully bought mimosa hostilis root bark and if yes from where?

What amount should I get - I was thinking about getting about 250g - 500g (1/2 to 1lbs) for first time experimenting but am in doubt if it will be enough if I screw up in the extraction process.

2. I can easily get my hands on H2SO4 or NaOH - or any other acids, bases, but the specific brands like VM&P naphtha - is something i think doesn't exist in stores, so what are my alternatives for this ( I know that in AU Shellite is used)

Thanks in advance for any helpful advices, tips.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/21/2012 9:10:36 PM

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My friend recently performed his first extraction, successfully, in the UK.

He ordered 1lb of powdered Mimosa Hostilis from Sonoransong. It arrived quickly, and was tracked. He had to pay a customs charge of around £24 however. I believe Sonoran only sell their powdered bark in l 1b bags, and I would advise that this is an ideal amount.

He used 3 HDPE2 5-litre bottles. He did not use the advised ratios of 1:1:15 but filled the gallon bottle about half full with cold water. He then added 1lb of Sodium Hydroxide purchased from a local hardware store, sold as 'drain cleaner'. The root bark was then added.

The solvent he used was Ronsonol Lighter Fluid, purchased as a 6-pack from eBay. Each containing 133ml. Each pull was around 400ml of solvent.

He also used Sodium Carbonate to wash the naphtha and remove any impurities, and Epsom Salts to remove any moisture. Both of these chemicals were purchased from eBay.

The final yield was slightly over 2%.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/21/2012 10:31:34 PM

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Overpowered wrote:
I -My questions are -

Does anyone else in Europe have successfully bought mimosa hostilis root bark and if yes from where?


Actually it's not necessary to purchase mimosa overseas. If you are in the EU, there are several suppliers that provide it from within Europe and that means no customs. Just do a google search for mimosa hostilis UK, for instance, and you will find options. It's true that plants purchased in America can be quite cheaper, but there's people who appreciates bypassing customs control for small amounts, to avoid taxes, etc.

Also, I think that from now on is probably a good idea to buy shredded, not powdered, root bark. Powdered mimosa is a preparation of the plant, and if by some chance (god forbid) any buyer has to deal with customs agents, a plant preparation would be more frowned upon.

Not that I want to make you paranoid - but some day buyers might start to find nasty suprises, and better safe than sorry.

Overpowered wrote:
What amount should I get - I was thinking about getting about 250g - 500g (1/2 to 1lbs) for first time experimenting but am in doubt if it will be enough if I screw up in the extraction process.


I'd go with 100 g for a first extraction. Measures are easy, amounts are manageable. Enough to have satisfying results, not too much to waste if things don't work out for some reason.

Overpowered wrote:
2. I can easily get my hands on H2SO4 or NaOH - or any other acids, bases, but the specific brands like VM&P naphtha - is something i think doesn't exist in stores, so what are my alternatives for this ( I know that in AU Shellite is used)


Ideally, IMO, hexane or heptane. See if you have a chemical supplies store in your city. If not, some report having used zippo lighter fluid (I have not), but in any case, just make an evaporation test to make sure it leaves no solid residues behind.


 
 
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