Alright so me and a freind were going to do dimitri for the first time last night.

We tried the sandwich method and literally got nothing. No visuals, or anything.

Then we tried a 2 liter bottle with aluminum foil on the bottom to vaporize it and again NOTHING at all. I mean there should be at least SOME effect I would think but we only got a lil stoned from the weed trying to sandwich it.

What the hell is wrong. I dont know if we burned the crystals or what. I got the MHRB from sonoransong and I heard they have good product. I did the q2121 tek and my dmt was white and everything?

Any tips or help would be great. I dont know what is wrong

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...zz_only.2C_what_to_do.3F

Hope it helps

Did you weigh the doses?

I pre measured out 90mg for the 2 of us and when we loaded it we just kind cut the spice into 2 even piles so neither pile had less than 40mg guarunteed.

How many hits did you take in a row? Did you hold the smoke in?

Tried like 3-4 hits each way and we held it in for like 15-20 seconds. NO effects at all.

Even with the 2L bottle we could barly see and vapor/smoke and it wasnt milky or thick like it should be

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Could it be the mhrb I used?

Sonoransong.com? I asked before I ordered and alot of people said it was fine...

More likely than not, it has to do with you burning the spice. If the lighter is too close, or the flames are too hot you will burn the spice. It's very easy to do with the sandwich and equally as easy with the bottle rocket. The trick is that with the sandwich be sure to ignite only a small part of the top, or hold the lighter above the bowl. As for the bottle rocket, keep the lighter under the tinfoil, if you're not sure how far away with you're lighter than put it very far down and move it up bit by bit until you see some smoke. If it turns black you're burnt it. Burnt spice produces nothing.

Alright I will have to work on a better way to vape it... I just didnt want it to inactive mhrb cause I ordered 1 pound of it and it would suck if it was bad bark.

I know alot fo people recommend glass vapor genies, but what about just a regular vapor genie? I can get one for $35 instead of spending $100 on the gvg

Regular genie still works much better than other methods IME, so yeah go for it if you can only afford it. But if you can afford the GVG, its definitely worth the difference in price, ask anybody who tried both and im sure they will agree with me

Do you have to do anything special or do you just put the spice in and light? and I read people use like 5 screens or something?

You need a volcano liquid pad or a copper scrubber to prevent DMT from melting through, or add a little bit of herbs below the DMT to absorb it as it melts (or make some changa). Just screens, even if its multiple, doesnt work

Damn Dmt has to be so complicated! I will try out the vapor genie and see if I can get it to work

It's God's way of putting precautions on a powerful triptamine

Well if I get the vapor genie and it still doesnt work then it HAS to be the product, MHRB, or I just wasnt meant to do it

I did forget to mention that we did have a few drinks before we smoked it. But we were definately not drunk when we tried to smoke it. Does alcohol have any effect on dmt?

or your smoking method.
or just your own body (just ask red eyes drag on).

but sonoran does have great mhrb, so i can safely say that is probably the last thing you have to worry about.

I guess it should be said that there is a learning curve for the spice, just relax, accept it, and wait for it. You will breakthrough someday I guarantee it.

Thanks for the good vibes