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Gone-and-Back
#1 Posted : 7/3/2012 6:19:59 PM
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I have tried Psilohuasca a few different times with verying ammounts of rue, from a gram to four grams. I have not really felt much of a increase in potency from the mushrooms along with the rue, and I have done both caps of rue and boiling it down to a tar and consuming that. It has at least made it more of a visual experience and less of a body, but only very slightly. I decided I wanted to try it again, but with extracts of harmaline, THH, and the other alkaloids present in rue and caapi. Does anyone know where the best place to purchase these extracts or tinctures are? Also, how much of each alkaloid should I take along with say, 2-2.5g of some cubes?

Also, do each of the alkaloids produce a noticably different effect then the rest of them? I have heard that THH is the hardest to obtain but is the most "magical" of the alkaloids and produces a much stronger visionary state. Is this true?
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#2 Posted : 7/3/2012 6:45:35 PM

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Don't bother buying hamala's just buy some Rue or Caapi and extract them, much cheaper and fun.

Can't really recommended dosage as everyone is different, but I always like to start low.
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#3 Posted : 7/8/2012 12:46:56 AM
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I would love to do the extraction myself, but I do not have the tools nor the time necessary for it. I know one easy method to extract harmine from syrian rue, https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...Crystals_from_Syrian_Rue
This however just gives Harmine, and not the full spectrum of harmalas. I want to use some of each, and since I do not have what I need to extract, it would be easier to purchase some. So if anyone could give me some tips on using extracts, such as dosages and what not, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Parshvik Chintan
#4 Posted : 7/8/2012 6:21:04 AM

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Gone-and-Back wrote:
I would love to do the extraction myself, but I do not have the tools nor the time necessary for it. I know one easy method to extract harmine from syrian rue, https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...Crystals_from_Syrian_Rue
This however just gives Harmine, and not the full spectrum of harmalas. I want to use some of each, and since I do not have what I need to extract, it would be easier to purchase some. So if anyone could give me some tips on using extracts, such as dosages and what not, I would greatly appreciate it.

have you looked at this tek?
technically caapi, but it would work the same.
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#5 Posted : 7/9/2012 7:45:41 PM
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Looks easy enough, I just dont know where to get NaOH and such. Also, I dont have the time required to do any of that, because some people in my house dont agree with such things. This is why I want to just get some from a vendor, and not worry about the hassle of extraction and hiding it from people.

Also, could the rue or caapi just be boiled in acidified water, say three or four separate boils, then the resulting liquids added together and reduced? This could be drank as is or boiled down to a tar and capped, at least it would seem to make sense to me. Does this actually work?
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#6 Posted : 7/9/2012 8:42:58 PM

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as far as where to buy lye, chances are it are at quite a few local stores, it is quite common. just make sure to check the MSDS to make sure it is pure.

and yes that brewing method should work (though acidified brews taste god awful when reduced)
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#7 Posted : 7/10/2012 1:05:53 AM
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If its not acidified, and I did just a couple extra boils, would it taste any better? I was thinking of also just capping the tar left at the end of boiling and eating that.
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