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parallelwhispers
#1 Posted : 6/10/2012 1:03:24 AM

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So I've found alot of information regarding the formation of the pineal gland in fetal development. Some information varies as far as the day gender selection occurs but all sites held on to one of two ideas.
1. The pineal gland is completely mature on the 49th day after conception.

2. The pineal gland is completely formed on the 49th day, and this is the first day it releases a large dose of hormones and chemicals, one in particular being dmt.


I'm not siting this information because I've found this information at several sites, number 1 seems to prove true, while number 2 seems to be nothing but speculation.

I really want to know if any research has been done to successfully measure the hormonal balance of a human fetus on the 49th day? or maybe a spike in brainwave activity that suggests consciousness, any physical evidence that places all of this outside the realm of pure speculation.

Also, while searching that up, I found a site that referred to the pineal gland as a sort of spirit transmitter, so now I'll give some quotes from that, because I found it very interesting to say the least.

"PINEAL ELECTRONS



The pineal gland being made of atoms has electrons which interact

with external photons.



PHOTONS ARE WHAT WE CALL SPIRITS



THE PHOTON (SPIRITS) COMMUNICATE WITH

VIBRATING ELECTRONS IN THE PINEAL GLAND



A transaction takes place between electrons and photons.

IF THE ELECTRONS IN YOUR PINEAL VIBRATE

YOU WILL BE CONTACTED

Once the pineal gland is in place in the fetus, then the electrons in that pineal gland will be

contacted by external photons we call God, or spirit."-http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/Sermon12wave.htm

"PINEAL IS THE LIGHT RECEPTOR

OR GOD RECEPTOR

Remember this is the light receptor of the body, and God is light according to the Bible.

And light is photon.

GOD COMMUNICATES WITH YOU VIA AN ELECTRICAL PHOTON WAVE

God photon communicates with the bodily electrons by sending a wave.

God energy will enter the human body in this way.

OUR PINEAL ELECTRONS MUST RESPOND BY VIBRATING

OR NO CONTACT CAN BE MADE

When our electrons send a wave back confirming the energy to

come, the transaction is complete."-http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/Sermon12wave.htm



It's not as if I agree with everything on the site, but it struck me because I had just read an article from a scientific study that says the pineal gland reacts to electromagnetic fields with a small magnetic field of it's own. Sadly I lost the site. Sad

Also, if we accept the assumption that light is spirit, and light is god, then it helps to support my theory that everything is interconnected by a source code around us that we cannot often see or understand, but only know, because a part of that energy is inside us.


So with your pineal gland aiding in the regulation of sleep cycles by detecting photons, it may also be playing several other key factors in detecting the unseen compositions of these photons, the knowledge locked inside.
So maybe dmt allows us to see the source code of this spirit world.
And maybe god is simply a term that can be used to describe the entire collective consciousness of this spirit world, if this is true, that would make us all a part of god if so. So then every collective idea and experience is located in this source code. It's all one gigantic network.

so dmt allows us to turn this instinctive and mathematical source code into visible information that couldn't be fully interpreted by any language.

Has anyone heard similar theories?



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#2 Posted : 6/10/2012 1:17:00 AM

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https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...nd_reasonable_arguments
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...s_DMT_do_in_the_body.3F

Please do not spread speculation as facts. There is no evidence dmt is produced in the pineal gland and even less that at the 49th day there is some release of it.

Also instead of saying you've read "somewhere", post sources, and reliable ones please.

Theorizing things is fine but be sure to make a clear diferentiation between facts and speculations. Also, IMO at this point there have been too many proposed theories from DMT users regarding how DMT/consciousness/life/reality work, but ive yet to see something tangible and beneficial coming out of it. Not that you shouldn't do it, feel free to... Just be sure to never stop questioning yourself and your theories, and asking yourself what is it that you really want and can get with those theories, what are the implications and how can you incorporate something beneificial for daily life.

Here's a couple more related links

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=18572

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=11579
 
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#3 Posted : 6/10/2012 1:23:10 AM

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endlessness wrote:
Please do not spread speculation as facts. There is no evidence dmt is produced in the pineal gland and even less that at the 49th day there is some release of it.

parallelwhispers wrote:
number 1 seems to prove true, while number 2 seems to be nothing but speculation.

endlessness wrote:
Also instead of saying you've read "somewhere", post sources, and reliable ones please.

parallelwhispers wrote:
It's not as if I agree with everything on the site, but it struck me because I had just read an article from a scientific study that says the pineal gland reacts to electromagnetic fields with a small magnetic field of it's own. Sadly I lost the site. Sad

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#4 Posted : 6/10/2012 1:24:44 AM

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sorry I missed that!
 
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#5 Posted : 6/10/2012 1:26:50 AM

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endlessness wrote:
sorry I missed that!

happens to the best of us Smile
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parallelwhispers
#6 Posted : 6/10/2012 1:54:00 AM

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Thanks for the links endlessness, I've only blasted off once and i'm sure future trips will alter and refine what is now just speculation, I didn't start this journey in search of enlightenment, dmt started the journey for me.

Being that I've only blasted off once, and have been casually researching dmt for only a week, so searching for wisdom on this site is a much higher priority than spreading it.

This seems to be a very intelligent community for the most part. I feel I have alot to learn.
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#7 Posted : 6/10/2012 2:03:05 AM

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Consider that if you regard light as God, and all matter is light slowed down by a multitude of vibrations, then perhaps it will bring you a new meaning to God being everywhere in everything.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
parallelwhispers
#8 Posted : 6/10/2012 2:55:16 AM

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Then god wouldn't need to change things from a higher conscience, the notion that god works through us becomes valid.

It makes me think of the matrix in the sense that we are all energy, a battery that eventually dies, but the computers are god and the purpose is not necessarily to provide energy in the form of a power source, but to provide energy in the form of thoughts, added to the collective conscience.

What intrigues me, and goes against the theory of dmt coming from the pineal gland, is the lack of dmt in not mammals that also possess a pineal gland, and the presence of dmt in certain plants, which have no pineal glands.

Death is an awakening. . . One day it will come.
But you'll search the skies with your eyes in frantic wonder.
You will come to realize the lies you've told yourself for so long to survive.
"We fear something that does not exist."
Not only does death not exist, we ourselves do not exist.
 
parallelwhispers
#9 Posted : 6/10/2012 4:23:52 AM

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So wiki says dmt doesn't occur naturally in the human brain, but does occur naturally in the brain of a rat.

I'm not sure but I would guess that the following were tested under average conditions, with a rested heart rate, but I could be wrong.



"Species Sample Results
Human Blood serum < LOD (n = 66)[28]
Blood plasma < LOD (n = 71)[28] ♦ < LOD (n = 3Cool; 1,000 & 10,600 ng/L (n = 2)[47]
Whole blood < LOD (n = 20); 50–790 ng/L (n = 20)[48]
Urine < 100 ng/L (n = 9)[28] ♦ < LOD (n = 60); 160–540 ng/L (n = 5)[45] ♦ Detected in n = 10 by GC-MS[49]
Feces < 50 ng/kg (n = 12); 130 ng/kg (n = 1)[28]
Kidney 15 ng/kg (n = 1)[28]
Lung 14 ng/kg (n = 1)[28]
Lumbar CSF 100,370 ng/L (n = 1); 2,330–7,210 ng/L (n = 3); 350 & 850 ng/L (n = 2)[50]
Rat Kidney 12 &16 ng/kg (n = 2)[28]
Lung 22 & 12 ng/kg (n = 2)[28]
Liver 6 & 10 ng/kg (n = 2)[28]
Brain 10 &15 ng/kg (n = 2)[28] ♦ Measured in synaptic vesicular fraction[51]
Rabbit Liver < 10 ng/kg (n = 1)[28]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

I'm not too sure that chart will be readable, but it's towards the bottom of the link.

Is there any research that confirms the release of more DMT or metabolites of DMT while sleeping? Is the brain of a human just not tested?

Sorry if all my lack of knowledge gets annoying. I just want to know what's proven, so I'm better equipped to speculate on what's not. I definitely am grateful for the input and the existence of this community period. Most of my friends don't even know dmt exists, so having a group of people who have all been to hyperspace (or at least know a little about it) will really help me out through all my confusion.
Death is an awakening. . . One day it will come.
But you'll search the skies with your eyes in frantic wonder.
You will come to realize the lies you've told yourself for so long to survive.
"We fear something that does not exist."
Not only does death not exist, we ourselves do not exist.
 
 
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