We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
12NEXT
Salvia arrived-I might have done something wrong. Help please Options
 
Infineon
#1 Posted : 6/7/2012 8:01:44 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
Hello my friendsSmile

Long time no see...I will cut to the chase as usual if you do not mindPleased

I recently bought a Sally and it arrived yesterday. Because I am new here I did not have the necessary number of posts to put this in the Salvia related area. I am sorry about this, but I need the information and I am sure that some of you might be able to help.

The cutting arrived in an envelope inside a container. The base with the roots was in an "improvised baloon" with some soil. Afterwards, I went to buy some potting soil. I took a pot from the basement when I came back. Took sally out of her container and without realizing it yesterday, I potted her in the new soil with the roots in the soil that it came with...watered it and put a plastic bag over the pot...In the morning I took the bag off for about 10 minutes. Before putting it back again I sprayed her(I think it's called misting) with some water and put the plastig bag back.

Now here come the questions:

1. Is it a problem that I didn't wash off the soil that it came with around the roots and planted it into new soil like that? (read somewhere that it's good to take out the plant, wash the roots, put it in some lukewarm water for 30 minutes before potting because the plant went through a lot of stress while being transported in the envelope in darkness with little soil )

2. How often should one mist the plant while in this improvised humidity tent?(once a day? twice? three times a day? )

3. Is it really necessary to keep it in this humidity tent? if so, for how long? (what are the signs to look out for? )


For now, these are my questions...the first one is important for me, the rest are relativeSmile .

I will try to post some pictures tomorrow.

Thank you in advance.

I look forward to reading your replies(and to take notes).
 

STS is a community for people interested in growing, preserving and researching botanical species, particularly those with remarkable therapeutic and/or psychoactive properties.
 
sidefx
#2 Posted : 6/7/2012 11:22:53 AM

Is it Greedy to want to see everyone's Smile ?


Posts: 389
Joined: 03-Apr-2012
Last visit: 15-Jan-2015
do a lot of research bro, i some how got hold of a salvia divinorum Rooted cutting.

And she died, they are very very hard to grow out of climate even with a tent, i have seen awesome pictures of glass house sallys.

I know they love a soil that is full of decomposing leaf matter..

The soil left on the roots will be fine, do not try and do more to her for a while as they dont like to be moved and shock longer than usual.

They originate from the Amazon rain forest aye so thats the climate you want pretty humid and relatively constant.

I was going to grow my Sally in a big tent!
Slugs and snails can sense this plant from all around the property, be aware they will take a big chomp.

And if you get any black bits dying shop them off or it will spread, use sterile blades.
"Given enough Time even Hydrogen starts to wonder where it came from, and where it is going"
 
Ringworm
#3 Posted : 6/7/2012 11:45:49 AM

DMT-Nexus member

Senior Member

Posts: 435
Joined: 10-Jan-2012
Last visit: 16-Dec-2018
A few thoughts:
don't wash the soil off the roots... this would stress the plant more than needed.

Misting is ok, but probably not needed unless you live in a very very dry area. Putting a bag over a plant is a good way to encourage rot and stagnant air. It *may* be helpful when you first got the plant to help deal with some of the shipping stress, but I'd wean it off as soon as feasible.

Salvia is weird about humidity, it readily adapts to a less humid environment. The old leaves will probably be angry about the situation but the newer leaves will grow thicker and somewhat tougher in the lower humidity.

Please don't listen to that other fella "sidefx" he means well I'm sure but has given you some oddball advice.
Please do not add composting leaves to the pot you are growing a plant in. Composting matter is fine outdoors in a bed, but you don't need or want a compost pile in a pot.
Salvia divinorum is NOT from the amazon jungle. It is from central america, specifically southern mexico.

Good luck, and if you have a more specific question, feel free to ask.
Rw
"We're selling more than a cracker here," Krijak said. "We're selling the salty, unctuous illusion of happiness."
 
Infineon
#4 Posted : 6/7/2012 12:28:18 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
Thank you for the advice...

But there is a question that is bothering me a bit.

Over night I was expecting that the plastic bag's wall would be full with condensation, but there was none. Is this a bad sign?...It just sits there since yesterday, looking pretty good all in all, but I'm afraid, it looks too good(maybe)...or maybe that's just me being way too careful?

I will post a picture tomorrow.

Let me know if this idea is good. If tomorrow the walls of the bag are not with condensation I will take off the bag and see what happens.

---there are also 2 leaves at the very bottom and they are pretty much on the earth...will they die off? or should I cut them off to help the plant concentrate on the 3 top leaves and growth? or should I just let the plant be and do what it knows best, to adapt and survive?
Infineon attached the following image(s):
20120607_133542.jpg (3,178kb) downloaded 159 time(s).
 
Infineon
#5 Posted : 6/7/2012 12:45:13 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
changed my mind...and I will stay with it to see what happens, I hope I am not stressing her too muchPleased... see the two leaves at the bottom...is that ok?...also the dirt on it is because of the shipping and I didn't want to put her under a water flow to clean it off as I thought it would be a little bit hard hitting for the fragile cutting...

Any advice is more than welcome...I've read a lot about them, but one thing is reading and a whole other thing actually growing one haha...I think I might be a little bit insecure on how I should handle her...

As I said I removed the bag that you see beside her because the humidity around here is pretty high if you ask me...hope it was the right call.
 
Ringworm
#6 Posted : 6/7/2012 12:51:10 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Senior Member

Posts: 435
Joined: 10-Jan-2012
Last visit: 16-Dec-2018
your plant is just a really young healthy cutting.

relax. remember to breathe, everything is fine, just leave it alone and let it get used to it's new world.
"We're selling more than a cracker here," Krijak said. "We're selling the salty, unctuous illusion of happiness."
 
Infineon
#7 Posted : 6/7/2012 12:59:26 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
Pleased haha will do...thanks for the support.

Hope she can forgive me for the constant checking and worrying ^^ I just want her to grow healthy and strong so she can take care of herself. Once she's on her "roots" I'll give her privacy Very happy
 
Tek
#8 Posted : 6/7/2012 1:50:53 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 420
Joined: 26-Aug-2011
Last visit: 19-Sep-2018
The plant can sense your worry and affection for her. I can only assume it would aid in her growth. Be sure to post pics along the growth cycle I'd be interested to see your progress Smile
All posts are from the fictional perspective of The Legendary Tek: the formless, hyperspace exploring apprentice to the mushroom god Teo. Tek, the lord of Eureeka's Castle, is the chosen one who has surfed the rainbow wave and who resides underneath the matter dome. All posts are fictitious in nature and are meant for entertainment purposes only.
 
Infineon
#9 Posted : 6/7/2012 3:24:35 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
sure will if everything goes alrightPleased...I took off the humidity tent, ringworm was pretty right, 2 hours in and no sign of bad stuff...

I'll keep you guys up to date. Thanks for the supportSmile
 
jamie
#10 Posted : 6/7/2012 6:20:45 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Salvia divinorum expert | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growingSenior Member | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growing

Posts: 12340
Joined: 12-Nov-2008
Last visit: 02-Apr-2023
Location: pacific
misting and little plastic bag tents are one of the best ways to kill an indoor salvia plant. Trust me I have been growing them for years and killed a few cuttings that way.
Long live the unwoke.
 
Ringworm
#11 Posted : 6/7/2012 7:04:54 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Senior Member

Posts: 435
Joined: 10-Jan-2012
Last visit: 16-Dec-2018
yeah man.... I was trying to say that in a subtle way Jamie.
Whoever came up with the idea of putting a bag over a plant should be forced to walk around all day with bag over their head.

"We're selling more than a cracker here," Krijak said. "We're selling the salty, unctuous illusion of happiness."
 
Infineon
#12 Posted : 6/7/2012 7:06:25 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
Thank you for the advice...she's been out 4 hours now, no humidity tent, but I did spray the leafs a couple of times from above so a few drops hit each leaf...I thought it could help her stay hydrated a bit until the roots spread in the soil and it can take its water from the soil...No signs of wilting or browning of the leafs.

I think she's going through some period of accommodation.

Because I don't know in practice very much about the plant I will just observe her every now and then and try to let my instincts take over if something happens.

It got dark now so I'll just let her alone...can't wait to see her tomorrow heheVery happy I haven't been this excited since my neighbour's cat...he used to come hang out with me the whole day in my room, he only went back to eat and sleep over night haha...good ol' bozo(r.i.p.)
 
gibran2
#13 Posted : 6/7/2012 7:14:25 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Salvia divinorum expertSenior Member

Posts: 3335
Joined: 04-Mar-2010
Last visit: 08-Mar-2024
I agree with the opinion that humidity tents are not only unnecessary, but actually harmful to salvia plants. They encourage rot and disease, and really don’t do anything positive for the plant. Same goes for misting.

With salvia – more is less: Just leave the plant alone and let it grow!
gibran2 attached the following image(s):
salvia.JPG (76kb) downloaded 114 time(s).
gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
 
Infineon
#14 Posted : 6/7/2012 7:18:36 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
just watering? let's say once a week when the soil shows signs, or 2 times if the humidity is low?

basically leave the misting be? completely?

gibran, I've read your posts on the topic, but I cannot help myself to be a little bit excited because it's my first face to face encounter with a live salvia plant...good work by the way, they helped a lotPleased
 
Tek
#15 Posted : 6/7/2012 7:35:29 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 420
Joined: 26-Aug-2011
Last visit: 19-Sep-2018
I really want one. They are such beautiful plants...
All posts are from the fictional perspective of The Legendary Tek: the formless, hyperspace exploring apprentice to the mushroom god Teo. Tek, the lord of Eureeka's Castle, is the chosen one who has surfed the rainbow wave and who resides underneath the matter dome. All posts are fictitious in nature and are meant for entertainment purposes only.
 
Infineon
#16 Posted : 6/7/2012 7:41:22 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
you know how everyone wants to have the rich neighbour's car or house? my wish is to have my sally grow like gibran's...he took it to the next levelPleased his plants look like the ones depicted in the booksSmile
 
Parshvik Chintan
#17 Posted : 6/8/2012 1:50:10 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 3207
Joined: 19-Jul-2011
Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
Infineon wrote:
you know how everyone wants to have the rich neighbour's car or house? my wish is to have my sally grow like gibran's...

yea here at the nexus there is only garden envy, but there is much of it Smile
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
樹
 
Ringworm
#18 Posted : 6/8/2012 6:55:20 AM

DMT-Nexus member

Senior Member

Posts: 435
Joined: 10-Jan-2012
Last visit: 16-Dec-2018
On another note to people that wish to grow a plant like Salvia D.

Why don't you go down to a plant nursery and buy a $1 Coleus? it grows in a similiar manner, and you could use the plant growing practice.

I once had 180k plants under my care that I had grown from seed and cutting... i assure you I did not stand next to the plants staring at them all day, they grow on their own.
Good luck infineon!
"We're selling more than a cracker here," Krijak said. "We're selling the salty, unctuous illusion of happiness."
 
Infineon
#19 Posted : 6/8/2012 7:06:43 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
you're right, too much worrying is not good, the plants know what they have to do, I just have to provide for some basic stuff and they'll do the rest, I think I owe her that much taking into consideration that this is not her natural environmentPleased

The taking off of the humidity tent was the best thing for her. I woke up this morning and she either lifted in a more straight position or she grew...in the photo that I posted yesterday the leaf was touching the pot, this morning there was a finger and a half clearing...the change is not drastic, but it's there...

She shows signs od browning, here and there, on the edges of the leafs, not much, but I would not want it to take over all of a sudden.

Now I am well aware that there is a lot of debate going on as to why this is happening to the leafs and that no one has a straight answer. I, myself, believe that it can be caused by more than one factor...

Do you guys think this could be because of the accommodation period that she's going through?
 
Infineon
#20 Posted : 6/8/2012 7:17:36 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 48
Joined: 22-Apr-2012
Last visit: 25-Jul-2012
Location: I am Zero.
also, my room has two windows...she gets indirect light in the morning from the northern window and again indirect light from the west window when the sun goes down, so she has light, always indirect and never on her...

so the question is this(and sorry if it sounds stupid): Should I turn her, let's say every two days, so that every side gets the same amount of light? the light comes from the left and front towards the end of the day...so that's why I am asking if I should turn the pot so that the right side and the back get the chance to have the same amount of light...maybe it's a stupid question
 
12NEXT
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.032 seconds.